Bananapaws
Sodbuster
Well, DangerouslyFunny already has the market cornered on tormenting Pam so I had to make do.
Who is the worst npc
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birdn4t0r
Cowpoke
out of all the NPCs, i’d have to choose marnie, not because she’s a bad person, but just because she is literally never there when you need her. just. never. why?????? at least the others have comedic/story value in their flaws, like clint with his shoes and mayor lewis with his “solid gold lewis,” or pam with how she treats penny.
Bananapaws
Sodbuster
How does she even stay in business? There are no other farms in town except for mine, and she's never home to sell me anything. I get a lot of satisfaction that if I marry Shane she can no longer reply on his rent money. And she'll have to do her own farm chores. Ma'am, you will no longer exploit my husband. Then again, if Mayor Lewis is building golden statues of himself maybe he can afford to be her Sugar Daddy.
nicodeux
Farmer
First, I would like to say that ConcernedApe did a wonderful character design job with all the NPCs in Stardew Valley. This can easily be spotted by all the posts (in this thread and in others) where one tries to guess the psychology or story of the NPCs solely based on the text lines they say in-game : you don't see that with poorly designed characters.
Regarding the original question of the worst NPC, I will rule out Morris because he is designed to be loathed.
I can't think of a NPC that I really dislike: they all have their qualities and flaws. I can bond more easily with some of them for personal reasons, but I guess everyone here could say the same, but not always with the same NPCs.
Thus, I don't have a worst NPC, only one that I like less than the others and that would be Gunther. Come on! A german name with a cowboy look? He must have done terrible things in a previous life...
However, I'm curious why so many people dislike Pierre. I did not have the opportunity to see his new booth in patch 1.5 yet (and I think this is a pity he got one during Dance of the Moonlight Jelly festival which is my favourite one: so poetic) but I wonder why many think of him as disloyal and greedy. It seems people do not remember him always being that way:
Regarding the original question of the worst NPC, I will rule out Morris because he is designed to be loathed.
I can't think of a NPC that I really dislike: they all have their qualities and flaws. I can bond more easily with some of them for personal reasons, but I guess everyone here could say the same, but not always with the same NPCs.
Thus, I don't have a worst NPC, only one that I like less than the others and that would be Gunther. Come on! A german name with a cowboy look? He must have done terrible things in a previous life...
However, I'm curious why so many people dislike Pierre. I did not have the opportunity to see his new booth in patch 1.5 yet (and I think this is a pity he got one during Dance of the Moonlight Jelly festival which is my favourite one: so poetic) but I wonder why many think of him as disloyal and greedy. It seems people do not remember him always being that way:
Has he changed that much over the years/patches? (if this is too much out of topic, I can open a dedicated thread)LRangerR said:
birdn4t0r
Cowpoke
just that even when she’s supposed to be there, it just feels like she’s not. ><
Alfyna
Sodbuster
More than anything, Pierre mostly just suffers from comparison. If this were any other RPG, he'd be that quirky side-of-the-road merchant you meet up with once in a while who tries to chisel you with bargain-brand loot at trumped-up prices. In SDV, with just about everyone else having a defined character arc that transforms them into a better version of themselves by the end, Pierre remains static. He doesn't learn anything from his mistakes. He sells the goods that you sell to him and rather than admit they're from your farm (or even just lie by omission) he tells his customers that he picked/grew/foraged them himself. He's a poor loser (the autumn fair) prone to bribery (the mayor at the Luau) and is an inattentive husband and father. I wouldn't call him disloyal, but he is very money-driven, and this leads him to abuse personal relationships in favor of financial gain.
It says something about how wholesome this game is that Pierre does stand out, though, because like I said -- we wouldn't bat an eye if he were to appear in a different game. It's just that all the other SDV characters go through personal journeys and emotional growth, so we notice when one doesn't.
Bananapaws
Sodbuster
This isn't mine, but I laughed myself sick.
TT99
Greenhorn
Pierre. He is definately involved in a lot more bad things than he initially lets on.
I personally am pretty convinced he killed another boxer when he was much younger with that right hook of his he talks about, fled the manslaughter charges, and that's why he's in Stardew Valley.
I personally am pretty convinced he killed another boxer when he was much younger with that right hook of his he talks about, fled the manslaughter charges, and that's why he's in Stardew Valley.
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LRangerR
Local Legend
Hey yo, don't know how I missed this reply all those years ago, but yes he has. Like I said somewhere else recently, he's not perfect. He still used to brawl with Morris, and he's never been the best husband or father, but if you think about all the introductions that were made into 1.5, beach, certain festival stalls, big job board, etc, you will note that they Massively change who he would be if you took them out of the game.
SergeantPineapple
Farmhand
I honestly don’t hate morris. The game villainizes Joja for the story, but in real life morris would just be trying to run a business, stealing customers is business practice. Prob Pierre or Marnie is worse cuz tracking their shop schedule is tedious and Pierre is a no good liar who takes credit for your crops. Although, Clint is a dweeb who has no guts to ask a girl out, which is worse than bad shop practices. So prob Clint for me. Never got the Lewis or Demetrius hate. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
Maher
Farmer
NPC's, not villagers, necessarily. Mr. Qi. The character design reminds me of that trench coat clad Salesman character from Sesame Street who is always trying to sell Ernie some letter that fell off a truck or whatever. You first encounter him in his casino, where he's profiting handsomely off of poor Welwick's delusions of clairvoyance. And can we talk about exchange rates for his captive currency there? And then you get to the walnut room and he's staring at this panopticon that lets him survey the whole Valley at once, and that's all he does.
Sometimes for fun Trixie slingshots rocks at him just to watch him swear. I wish the PC could deal him actual damage.
Sometimes for fun Trixie slingshots rocks at him just to watch him swear. I wish the PC could deal him actual damage.
LRangerR
Local Legend
I love this so much
LRangerR
Local Legend
I feel sorry for your business and personal ethics
SergeantPineapple
Farmhand
I mean I was more playing devils advocate. I think I relate to Clint too much. I see myself in him
LRangerR
Local Legend
I don't believe youI mean I was more playing devils advocate. I think I relate to Clint too much. I see myself in him
SergeantPineapple
Farmhand
I feel that Clint is just a character lacking much substance as a whole. I wish that if the farmer didn’t marry Emily you could set her and Clint upI mean I was more playing devils advocate. I think I relate to Clint too much. I see myself in him