Mordred
Greenhorn
Oof
Non-Binary farmer
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astdragon
Farmer
how about you become trans or enby and see what its like to be hated on like this
people are free to do whatever they want with their gender
if you want stereotypes to stop then stop stereotyping lgbtq people
Mordred
Greenhorn
Okay, this is the last interaction, then I’m leaving this dead. Adressing each paragraph:
1) While I do recognise that my numbers are a little skewed because fandoms as a whole are inherently more queer (because queer people generally interact with fandoms more), creators, artists and players across all social media who are a part of this fan base tend to be queer or at least not homophobic/transphobic.
2) I genuinely have no idea what you mean by the first part. Also referring to someone only by their name would be a case of gender neutral language, yes! But, it would also be maybe a little unnatural, hence the suggestion of an added gender with altered dialogue.
3) Identity is not a belief. That’s why it’s called an identity and not a belief. If I were to say, for example: “I think that Stardew Valley should scrap Yoba and worship [some irl religion] because I think that’s right” that would be an attempt of imprinting personal beliefs. That is not at all what’s going on here. Also, by your logic, Stardew is already imprinting their personal beliefs by making two gender option. But still, not a belief.
4) This is just… so wrong. There aren’t two sexes, let alone genders. Intersex people exist, while only 1% of population (could be higher, skewed data), that is still 80 million people who do not biologically fit into either category. Same goes with gender, which is a social construct. So many ancient cultures recognised three or more genders (f.e. Two-spirit). What we think of when we say Man or Woman is just a set of characteristics and values we made up, and they change over time.
5) This whole conversation is about adding a gender neutral option to the game. You can literally wear a dress as a male farmer what do you mean “stereotyping”. Also I think lots of gender conforming people would also use this option, cause they want to have freedom over what to wear and how to be addressed. This literally doesn’t have to have anything to do with identity.
Try to educate yourself next time before posting random hate at someone, it makes for a more rational and pleasant conversation overall. <3
There is no need to be rude. You might not see that option as necessary, but other players do. If it were added to the game, you could just not choose that option ever, and it wouldn't affect you in any way.
Yogurt_The_Cow
Farmer
That’s the one and only @Lew Zealand For you! Always standing up for what’s right! *the crowd goes wild*
Ih8Lewis4ever
Farmer
That's a bit harsh don't you think?
Luna_Tuna
Farmer
i mean no one said males or women couldn’t like those things…
That's enough guys, please go back to the topic of the thread.
Freizeitfarmer
Farmer
Just a note...
it is NOT trivial to be gender-neutral in all languages. The discussion is very English-centric here. It would be nice if not only gender identity were held in high regard here, but also linguistic culture! Of course, everything can be done somehow. But please don't claim it's easy!
Personally I think SDV is pretty open already. Everyone can dress as they want and marry whomever they want.
That is much more than is socially possible in many countries irl! Someone once wrote here in the forum that at least in the game he could express himself freely.
Just to be clear: I am not against more options! These are just a few of my thoughts on the subject.
BTW at least for English there is already a mod: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/722
it is NOT trivial to be gender-neutral in all languages. The discussion is very English-centric here. It would be nice if not only gender identity were held in high regard here, but also linguistic culture! Of course, everything can be done somehow. But please don't claim it's easy!
Personally I think SDV is pretty open already. Everyone can dress as they want and marry whomever they want.
That is much more than is socially possible in many countries irl! Someone once wrote here in the forum that at least in the game he could express himself freely.
Just to be clear: I am not against more options! These are just a few of my thoughts on the subject.
BTW at least for English there is already a mod: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/722
BeenASon
Local Legend
It is much safer to express yourself in Stardew than it is to in a majority of the world. A lot of Islamic countries a lot of third world countries I don't wana get into detail.
Ih8Lewis4ever
Farmer
I know that in French they use "Iel" for non-binary so that's a start.