Which path?

Which path?

  • Community Center

    Votes: 20 90.9%
  • Jojamart

    Votes: 2 9.1%

  • Total voters
    22

Lew Zealand

Helper
Generally the Community Center allows for a more balanced experience as it prods you to Forage, Farm, Mine, Fish a lot so it works pretty well to involve the Farmer in the game and even though I've done 5 long term playthroughs I've done the Community Center in each.

However if you want to do a more focused playthrough, I can see monocropping your way to higher amounts of g to do the Joja bundles. I need to try that just to see if it takes me out of the game or allows me to focus more. Not being someone who watches speedruns, I wonder if they pick Joja for what seems to be to me a quicker way to open up the map.
 
I tend to go back and forth.

I think Lew Zealand's point of focusing applies to me - whether one wants to focus on the early game content or the late game content.
Community Center feels like the core content of the "early game". For me who's had multiple saves already, the "early game" experience may have already become stale (the farming, the fishing, etc.), but the Joja path expedites the core content of the "late game" for me - Desert, Island, Qi quests etc. (heavy combating, costumes, advanced crafting items). I get to focus on those newer stuff and the novelty hooks me in. You still do the "early game" stuff this way, but you get the opportunity to focus more of your time with the late game stuff.

This most recent save I did opt for the Community Center route, and actually since I haven't played that path for a while, it was fresh for me again and I was hooked in again.
I actually liked that CA implemented the Joja route every step of the way because in case the Island stuff become "stale" (finding all the walnuts), then we can again expedite that part and focus on the newer parts (1.6+).

The openness and freedom to choose is really what makes Stardew Valley fun. It promotes replayability too.

If I have to choose though, Junimo. Yeah I miss out on a cool Soda Machine, but it's more soulful.
 

HaleyRocks

Farmer
Once you go Joja, always Joja.

Gameplay-wise:

1) Earlier/Easier Greenhouse
2) You can still complete bundles their rewards you're interested into, before buying Joja upgrades; including the Billboard friendship bonus
3) Autopetters on sale (my 2 coops 2 barns always appreciate early helping hand, plus you can forget all about nasty RNG, for their drops counterpart)
4) Movie Theater lies in a more convenient and better looking location (looks especially rad, during the Golden Pumpkin event)
5) Villagers don't change schedules (thankfully)

Food for thought-wise:

6) The more the vendor choices, the better for you overall
7) Pierre will have some time to spend with his family, as well as reflect upon his greed and bad manners on occasion
8) There are no consequences or ill effects (junimos still serve you, the place remains peaceful and tranquil, etc)
9) Your trophy isn't only decorative, it produces cola daily, thus becoming a steady source of the stuff
10) I owe Morris some (joja parrot and the guy selling waivers, can become trully invaluable assets)

When i used to run Community, back in 1.5 days, i remember being quite inconvenienced, plus i actually missed the "reward" part; both gameplay-wise and food for thought wise...

Also, being morally "correct", is too abstract and devoid of meaning/context... "Correct" is subjective. And our good intentions, don't actually guarantee the end result(s); or justify them, for that matter. As Machiavelli once said: "We aren't being judged for our (good) intentions, but from the results our actions achieve".
 
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LRangerR

Local Legend
Once you go Joja, always Joja.

Gameplay-wise:

1) Earlier/Easier Greenhouse
2) You can still complete bundles their rewards you're interested into, before buying Joja upgrades; including the Billboard friendship bonus
3) Autopetters on sale (my 2 coops 2 barns always appreciate early helping hand, plus you can forget all about nasty RNG, for their drops counterpart)
4) Movie Theater lies in a more convenient and better looking location (looks especially rad, during the Golden Pumpkin event)
5) Villagers don't change schedules (thankfully)

Food for thought-wise:

6) The more the vendor choices, the better for you overall
7) Pierre will have some time to spend with his family, as well as reflect upon his greed and bad manners on occasion
8) There are no consequences or ill effects (junimos still serve you, the place remains peaceful and tranquil, etc)
9) Your trophy isn't only decorative, it produces cola daily, thus becoming a steady source of the stuff
10) I owe Morris some (joja parrot and the guy selling waivers, can become trully invaluable assets)

When i used to run Community, back in 1.5 days, i remember being quite inconvenienced, plus i actually missed the "reward" part; both gameplay-wise and food for thought wise...

Also, being morally "correct", is too abstract and devoid of meaning/context... "Correct" is subjective. And our good intentions, don't actually guarantee the end result(s); or justify them, for that matter. As Machiavelli once said: "We aren't being judged for our (good) intentions, but from the results our actions achieve".
Wasnt Machiavelli a mass murderer or something?
 

Maxima

Sodbuster
I did Joja path once, and halfway through I realized I'm bad at earning gold, it's too slow for me, and I don't get that sense of progression.

So I'm CC all the way. While it does get less rewarding after finishing it a few times, it's still fun to fill it in, and there's that sense of progression I like. I just wish it has more use after being completed.
 

MogBeoulve

Local Legend
I did Joja path once, and halfway through I realized I'm bad at earning gold, it's too slow for me, and I don't get that sense of progression.

So I'm CC all the way. While it does get less rewarding after finishing it a few times, it's still fun to fill it in, and there's that sense of progression I like. I just wish it has more use after being completed.
That's why I refuse to feel bad about filling the community center with garden pots and processing machines. It saves my farm space for watching rabbits bounce all over the place, and I explain it in-game by saying that it's a community greenhouse/food pantry. It's a little harder to pretend that I'm doing it for the good of the village if I fill the Jojamart with potted pineapples. (Although come to think of it, that would be a very funny meme run.)
 
Community Center, because the Joja route is a boring grindfest if you try to be even remotely efficient. It just sucks all the fun out of the game for me. With the CC, you naturally have to perform a wide variety of activities to complete it. It's even better with the remixed bundles. You can end up being encouraged tp go in different directions, like a focus on foraging, brewing or fishing.
 

Jianadaren1

Sodbuster
Joja is great, but I've recently been drawn to hybrid Joja: essentially finishing 4 or 5 of the CC rooms and then buying JoJa membership and any remaining upgrades to finish it off (usually in the first Fall)

It saves nearly 100k G compared to pure Joja while allowing you to keep all of the postgame Joja benefits without feeling like you completely ignored/bypassed the Junimos
 
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Joja is great, but I've recently been drawn to hybrid Joja: essentially finishing 4 or 5 of the CC rooms and then buying JoJa membership and any remaining upgrades to finish it off (usually in the first Fall)

It saves nearly 100G compared to pure Joja while allowing you to keep all of the postgame Joja benefits without feeling like you completely ignored/bypassed the Junimos
That's a great idea!
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stardew_luv

Farmer
Generally the Community Center allows for a more balanced experience as it prods you to Forage, Farm, Mine, Fish a lot so it works pretty well to involve the Farmer in the game and even though I've done 5 long term playthroughs I've done the Community Center in each.

However if you want to do a more focused playthrough, I can see monocropping your way to higher amounts of g to do the Joja bundles. I need to try that just to see if it takes me out of the game or allows me to focus more. Not being someone who watches speedruns, I wonder if they pick Joja for what seems to be to me a quicker way to open up the map.
It DEFINITELY opens the map more quickly. I don’t like mega corps irl nor do I like supporting them if I could, but being on an already overstretched paycheck by paycheck budget we have no choice. There are those in Stardew that are the same way. They don’t want to support it but they can’t help it. So it’s not entirely evil that it stay open. Though throwing over half a million to the company when all is said and done is definitely coopering in their capitalistic ways. That being said it IS fantasy and not reality. Pierre is quite the capitalist his own self so keeping him open isn’t necessarily the best route either. I’d say do whichever and unless you play Stardew Valley Expanded there are no consequences to your actions in this instance so yeah, Joja is easiest, and least stressful but does tug at your virtual heartstrings supporting them. Your choice.
 

Maxima

Sodbuster
A Joja path advantage I could think of is easy access to Auto-petters. Like I'm really bad at Skull Cavern runs, no chance of me getting it anywhere unless I grind hours for it 💀
 

HaleyRocks

Farmer
I just personally dislike amazon, and I can't do anything about that irl, but my farmer can put a wrench in fantasy!amazon's plans, so it's cathartic for me.
Could i ask you a single question please? Had the news-media of Amazon's owner, agreed to vouch for Dems, would you still personally dislike amazon?

Pardon me the intrusion, i merely wanted to satisfy my curiosity, is all. Purely hypothetical.
 

Yvi

Rancher
Amazon's owner
I'm gonna be completely honest with you, I can't remember who the owner of amazon is at the moment, nor does my dislike of amazon have anything to do with the owner. Also, I don't talk politics on the internet, or with anyone who's not a close personal friend.


A Joja path advantage I could think of is easy access to Auto-petters.
The auto-petters is a major advantage. I love skull cavern dives, but I have the worst luck and have trouble getting sufficient auto-petters that way.
 

HaleyRocks

Farmer
I'm gonna be completely honest with you, I can't remember who the owner of amazon is at the moment, nor does my dislike of amazon have anything to do with the owner. Also, I don't talk politics on the internet, or with anyone who's not a close personal friend.
Jeff Bezos. His news-media refused to "champion" the Dem. cause.

But thank you for the answer, regardless. Sometimes an evasion, a non-answer, even a negative answer, can be interpreted as an answer still!

I understand.
 
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