Nonak
Local Legend
He loves 'em turned into mayo. Though he also loves just void eggs so idk. I only give him iridium quality horseradishes or pumpkins anyway.
WORST Stardew NPCs
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RennyBenny
Farmer
ooo here we go:
1. qi - big time weirdo, i mean the guy tracks your STEPS, how the hell do you even find that out dude?? and his stupid smirk pisses me off, why are you smirking? because you control the entire world and leave creepy fruit with your face on it everywhere?
2. the hat mouse - that's right. i hate him. he sells wack hats for insane prices when i can just make actual cool ones myself. and his grammar sucks.
3. penny - she just so mopey. i get that her mom is a drunk but from what i've gathered, pam was never abusive to her, she was just out of it, so she doesn't really have a reason to be so angry towards her mom, ESPECIALLY if the player gives her a house and helps her start praying to yoba. and on top of that, she's a grown woman, if she wants to, she can leave town. she just chooses to linger around pelican town and mope.
4. abigail - she just annoys me, i'm not sure why.
5. lewis - this guy sucks. all around. there was money that could've fixed the community center, but hey, who the hell needs that? let's make a solid gold statue of me instead! and while i'm at it, i'll start a relationship with a kind, loving woman and then treat her like a dirty secret and only talk to her at night in the middle of a freaking bush. and just in case no one hated me yet, i'll put evil, invincible, magic, flying purple underwear in my secret basement. and then after that, i'll walk around town and collect everyone's taxes just to make another solid gold statue of myself.
6. FIZZ - OH MY GOD I HATE HIM, THAT VILE LITTLE TURD TAKES YOUR MONEY FOR A 32 PART SCAM WHILE HE LURKS IN A CAVE LIKE A WEIRD CRYPTID, WAITING TO SUCK YOU DRY OF YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY TO BETTER JOJACO. IF WE SHOULD BE HATING ANY JOJA WORKERS, ITS THIS GUY.
UNPOPULAR OPINION:
morris isn't a bad guy- HEAR ME OUT OK? the guy does some sucky stuff but that's his job. he's really the fall guy for the real issue we should actually hate, jojaco. honestly if he left the job, i think morris would be a real nice dude. and if we really think about it, the poor guy just sits behind a sad desk in a depressive store all day and presumably all night, just to try to make deals that he doesn't really care about. he probably wants a nice vacation to ginger island...
1. qi - big time weirdo, i mean the guy tracks your STEPS, how the hell do you even find that out dude?? and his stupid smirk pisses me off, why are you smirking? because you control the entire world and leave creepy fruit with your face on it everywhere?
2. the hat mouse - that's right. i hate him. he sells wack hats for insane prices when i can just make actual cool ones myself. and his grammar sucks.
3. penny - she just so mopey. i get that her mom is a drunk but from what i've gathered, pam was never abusive to her, she was just out of it, so she doesn't really have a reason to be so angry towards her mom, ESPECIALLY if the player gives her a house and helps her start praying to yoba. and on top of that, she's a grown woman, if she wants to, she can leave town. she just chooses to linger around pelican town and mope.
4. abigail - she just annoys me, i'm not sure why.
5. lewis - this guy sucks. all around. there was money that could've fixed the community center, but hey, who the hell needs that? let's make a solid gold statue of me instead! and while i'm at it, i'll start a relationship with a kind, loving woman and then treat her like a dirty secret and only talk to her at night in the middle of a freaking bush. and just in case no one hated me yet, i'll put evil, invincible, magic, flying purple underwear in my secret basement. and then after that, i'll walk around town and collect everyone's taxes just to make another solid gold statue of myself.
6. FIZZ - OH MY GOD I HATE HIM, THAT VILE LITTLE TURD TAKES YOUR MONEY FOR A 32 PART SCAM WHILE HE LURKS IN A CAVE LIKE A WEIRD CRYPTID, WAITING TO SUCK YOU DRY OF YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY TO BETTER JOJACO. IF WE SHOULD BE HATING ANY JOJA WORKERS, ITS THIS GUY.
UNPOPULAR OPINION:
morris isn't a bad guy- HEAR ME OUT OK? the guy does some sucky stuff but that's his job. he's really the fall guy for the real issue we should actually hate, jojaco. honestly if he left the job, i think morris would be a real nice dude. and if we really think about it, the poor guy just sits behind a sad desk in a depressive store all day and presumably all night, just to try to make deals that he doesn't really care about. he probably wants a nice vacation to ginger island...
RennyBenny
Farmer
proud morris lover here!
Purple Lettuce Underdisgustings is my new favorite phrase
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Nonak
Local Legend
Yes, I don't remember if I've said it already but I really dislike that portrait, can you not look at me like that? Also he works with Fizz.
Do you think a mouse understands what prices are appropriate? I wonder why he needs money anyway. And the bear probably taught him how to write.
The shorts actually haunt his basement, he's unhappy about it so he tried to block them off with that maze.
Also this one portrait...
Or any other one of his for that matter. I don't hate hate him, I just never interact with the dude, please stay away from me.
RennyBenny
Farmer
hey, the guy's running a business, he should understand what he's getting into... even if the bear taught him.
Cuddlebug
Farmer
Well, when you look at some business owners, a lack of knowledge about pricing isn't necessarily a hindrance...
RennyBenny
Farmer
*cough* pierre prices suck *cough*
Nonak
Local Legend
Pretty sure he doesn't know what he's doing at all XD
Maybe he just wanted to share his hats,
thought this is the way because he saw Marnie's shop or something and has no idea what the coins we're giving him are. They aren't even edible!
But yea you probably should understand that if you're opening a shop. Also the fact that putting it in one of the most remote locations possible is not great for business. He doesn't have much choice but still.
Maher
Farmer
Because even when she's married with two kids of her own, she thinks it's clever to beat Jas and Vincent at the egg hunt?
Gamer1234556
Planter
I mean… does she really ever mope in this town? There are a lot of characters that mope and Penny is probably one of the last characters to ever do that. If anything, Penny is probably the most grateful character in the town that tries to make the best of her bad situation. She’s just frustrated with her mom because she has a drinking problem that she never really gets much support for. And I don’t really think she really gets angry at her Mom aside from the moment where she gets defensive over her not cleaning the home and the Saloon. If you want characters that mope, well… Haley and Shane are right there. Same with George, Linus and Sebastian. If anything, Penny is one of the least mopey characters in the Town lol.
Terdin
Farmer
Oh, really? When I look at Penny's and Haley's dialogue, I see a fairly equal amount of mopey lines. One big difference between them is that Penny often talks about the children instead, and Haley talks about the farmer's smell or lack of style. Much of Penny's dialogue reads as "I know I shouldn't complain, but..."
Gamer1234556
Planter
It’s funny, because I found a grand total of one line that starts close to what you are saying. And it’s the line where she admits that complaining about washing dishes is childish. But like… does Pam even clean up for herself? So how would that really be mopey at that point when her Mother doesn’t really clean up after herself and spends so much time at the Saloon.
I mean… Penny is complaining about having to clean a house by herself while her Mom is sulking in the Saloon and in JojaMart. Haley is sulking because she doesn’t want to be in Pelican Town and about how ‘weird’ her sister is… while having to need the farmer to tell her to do chores. I wonder whose the more mopey one here, lol.
Imam Fauzi
Cowpoke
Yeah, I agree with this one. Leah's boyfriend is male so she's fine.
I'm a bit concerned on this too, really. I mean, he talks to you, ask you to come in to the tent and then there's that weird noise. He's just making a bait but duuude, can't you just make it outside??i cant get over the one cutscene where he takes u into his tent and makes squeching noises. i know he was making bait but it sounds so wrong
MogBeoulve
Local Legend
You really don't have to, especially if you have high quality void eggs, but his reaction when given void mayo is adorable. He's so happy you thought of him!
Gamer1234556
Planter
She’s male if you choose the Male Farmer, Female if you choose Female.
Maher
Farmer
Try playing as a female character.
Maher
Farmer
To each their own. I only give him void mayo on Friday. Otherwise it's TMI.
Ih8Lewis4ever
Farmer
In order.
I. Lewis (obviously!)
II. Morris
III. Kel
IV. Haley
V. Witch
VI. Shane
VII. Mr. Qi
VIII. Tourist (Stardew Valley Fair)
IX. Gil
X. Pam
I. Lewis (obviously!)
II. Morris
III. Kel
IV. Haley
V. Witch
VI. Shane
VII. Mr. Qi
VIII. Tourist (Stardew Valley Fair)
IX. Gil
X. Pam
Imam Fauzi
Cowpoke
Just figured it out that Leah's kind of both, depending on whether you're playing as male or female
Gamer1234556
Planter
Okay, I have some Stardew Valley hot takes, and I need to get them out because Pelican Town is cute until you realize half the adults there are just quietly failing everyone around them.
First of all: I don’t really like Gus that much.
I don’t hate him. He seems nice. He feeds people, runs the Saloon, and generally comes off as one of the more normal adults in town. But the more I think about him, the more he starts to feel like the ultimate “nice guy with no boundaries.”
Because brother, you have Pam and Shane slowly destroying themselves at your bar every night, and your response is basically, “Same time tomorrow?”
I get it. It’s his job. He runs a Saloon. He sells food and alcohol. But at some point, when two of the most visibly miserable people in town are using your business as their emotional collapse chamber, maybe you have to put your foot down.
And the Pam tab thing drives me insane because why am I, the farmer who just moved here, being forced to confront Pam about paying her bill? Why is that my job? Gus is the adult. Gus owns the place. Gus knows Pam. But apparently he can’t bring himself to say, “Hey, you need to pay me back,” so now the farmer has to walk into the trailer park debt collection arc.
Then there’s the Dwarf.
I’m just saying: George lost the use of his legs in a mining accident, and the Dwarf lives in the mines and uses bombs. Do I have proof? No. But do I have questions? Absolutely.
I’m not even saying the Dwarf did it on purpose. I’m saying Pelican Town is sitting on top of a war zone full of shadow people, ancient magic, explosives, monsters, and one little guy who sells bombs behind a rock wall. So if George got caught in some underground chaos nobody talks about anymore, that would honestly explain a lot.
Now let’s talk about Grandpa.
Grandpa gets treated like this wise, legendary, salt-of-the-earth farmer who left you this beautiful inheritance. But then you arrive and the farm looks like nature filed a legal claim over the property.
No barn. No coop. No shed. Greenhouse destroyed. Rocks everywhere. Weeds everywhere. Logs everywhere. The whole place looks like a raccoon cult had been squatting there for twenty years.
What exactly was Grandpa doing?
And Lewis deserves partial blame too. This man was supposedly Grandpa’s friend. He knew the farmer was coming. He’s the mayor. You’re telling me he couldn’t organize one afternoon where Robin, Marnie, and maybe a few bored townspeople clear out some weeds? Fix a fence? Repair literally anything?
Grandpa didn’t leave us a farm. He left us an unpaid restoration project with ghosts attached.
Then there’s Demetrius.
Demetrius is weird because he seems like a nice person at first. He’s polite. He likes science. He’s friendly enough to the farmer. But the second you look at his family dynamic for more than five seconds, the man starts looking like one of the worst dads in the game.
He overcompensates with Maru, undercompensates with Sebastian, and somehow manages to argue with Robin over the concept of a tomato like he’s trying to win a courtroom debate against his own wife.
Maru gets treated like this precious gifted science daughter who must be protected from the world. Sebastian is in the basement turning into a human Wi-Fi router, and Demetrius barely seems to notice.
That’s what makes him frustrating. He’s not cartoonishly evil. He’s not Pierre. He’s not Lewis. He’s just emotionally useless in a very realistic way. He can be nice to the farmer because the farmer does not require emotional intimacy from him. His family does, and that’s where he starts falling apart.
And then there is Shane.
Oh man. Shane.
I don’t hate Shane because he’s depressed. I don’t hate him because he struggles with addiction. Those are serious issues, and the game clearly wants you to sympathize with him. My problem is that the game wants all the sympathy in the world for Shane, but it barely makes him accountable to the people he hurts or neglects.
Especially Jas.
That is the part that makes me genuinely aggravated.
Jas lost her parents. She lives with Marnie. Marnie herself is already compromised because she’s dealing with Lewis, running the ranch, going to the Saloon, and somehow functioning as the closest thing Jas has to a stable guardian. Penny basically has to fill in the education gap because Pelican Town apparently has no school system.
And what does Shane do?
He goes to a job he hates, drinks at the Saloon, snaps at the farmer, spirals, and then waits for the player to drag him through his emotional development arc.
And yes, I know he’s struggling. I know he’s not okay. But the second Jas enters the conversation, it stops being only about Shane. He is not just “sad rude chicken man.” He is an adult with a child in his life who needs him.
That six-heart event drives me insane because when you mention Jas, Shane basically goes, “You’re right, now I feel even worse.”
BROTHER.
If you know Jas needs you, then why are you not doing something about it? Why does the farmer have to be the one to remind you that the traumatized child in your house needs emotional support? Why does Shane treat Charlie the chicken with more visible affection and consistency than his own goddaughter?
And the marriage route makes it worse.
Because if you marry Shane, he just moves to your farm, and Jas is still at Marnie’s. So now it feels like he has once again escaped responsibility, except this time the farmer has become his new emotional caretaker.
That is the nail in the coffin for me.
Not the messy room. Not the awkward beer jokes. Not even the fact that his post-marriage arc feels undercooked. It’s Jas. It’s always Jas.
The game uses Jas to make Shane seem sympathetic, but it does not give enough attention to whether Shane actually shows up for her afterward. Where is the apology scene? Where is the moment where he starts spending real time with her? Where is the event where he tells Marnie he wants to help more? Where is the evidence that he is becoming more than just “less actively self-destructive”?
Because without that, Shane’s arc feels incomplete. The farmer should not be responsible for fixing Shane if Shane is not going to take responsibility for the people who already needed him.
And honestly, that’s the thing about Stardew Valley once you start thinking about it too much.
The whole town is adorable, but it also runs on avoidance. Gus avoids setting boundaries. Lewis avoids accountability. Demetrius avoids emotional responsibility. Marnie avoids confronting Lewis. Shane avoids Jas. Grandpa avoided basic property maintenance.
Then the farmer shows up and has to fix the farm, fix the Community Center, fix the bus, fix everyone’s trauma, fix the local economy, fix the greenhouse, fix the mines, fix Pam’s tab, and somehow still make it home in time to water 300 ancient fruit plants.
Pelican Town is not a cozy village. It is a group therapy session with farming mechanics.
First of all: I don’t really like Gus that much.
I don’t hate him. He seems nice. He feeds people, runs the Saloon, and generally comes off as one of the more normal adults in town. But the more I think about him, the more he starts to feel like the ultimate “nice guy with no boundaries.”
Because brother, you have Pam and Shane slowly destroying themselves at your bar every night, and your response is basically, “Same time tomorrow?”
I get it. It’s his job. He runs a Saloon. He sells food and alcohol. But at some point, when two of the most visibly miserable people in town are using your business as their emotional collapse chamber, maybe you have to put your foot down.
And the Pam tab thing drives me insane because why am I, the farmer who just moved here, being forced to confront Pam about paying her bill? Why is that my job? Gus is the adult. Gus owns the place. Gus knows Pam. But apparently he can’t bring himself to say, “Hey, you need to pay me back,” so now the farmer has to walk into the trailer park debt collection arc.
Then there’s the Dwarf.
I’m just saying: George lost the use of his legs in a mining accident, and the Dwarf lives in the mines and uses bombs. Do I have proof? No. But do I have questions? Absolutely.
I’m not even saying the Dwarf did it on purpose. I’m saying Pelican Town is sitting on top of a war zone full of shadow people, ancient magic, explosives, monsters, and one little guy who sells bombs behind a rock wall. So if George got caught in some underground chaos nobody talks about anymore, that would honestly explain a lot.
Now let’s talk about Grandpa.
Grandpa gets treated like this wise, legendary, salt-of-the-earth farmer who left you this beautiful inheritance. But then you arrive and the farm looks like nature filed a legal claim over the property.
No barn. No coop. No shed. Greenhouse destroyed. Rocks everywhere. Weeds everywhere. Logs everywhere. The whole place looks like a raccoon cult had been squatting there for twenty years.
What exactly was Grandpa doing?
And Lewis deserves partial blame too. This man was supposedly Grandpa’s friend. He knew the farmer was coming. He’s the mayor. You’re telling me he couldn’t organize one afternoon where Robin, Marnie, and maybe a few bored townspeople clear out some weeds? Fix a fence? Repair literally anything?
Grandpa didn’t leave us a farm. He left us an unpaid restoration project with ghosts attached.
Then there’s Demetrius.
Demetrius is weird because he seems like a nice person at first. He’s polite. He likes science. He’s friendly enough to the farmer. But the second you look at his family dynamic for more than five seconds, the man starts looking like one of the worst dads in the game.
He overcompensates with Maru, undercompensates with Sebastian, and somehow manages to argue with Robin over the concept of a tomato like he’s trying to win a courtroom debate against his own wife.
Maru gets treated like this precious gifted science daughter who must be protected from the world. Sebastian is in the basement turning into a human Wi-Fi router, and Demetrius barely seems to notice.
That’s what makes him frustrating. He’s not cartoonishly evil. He’s not Pierre. He’s not Lewis. He’s just emotionally useless in a very realistic way. He can be nice to the farmer because the farmer does not require emotional intimacy from him. His family does, and that’s where he starts falling apart.
And then there is Shane.
Oh man. Shane.
I don’t hate Shane because he’s depressed. I don’t hate him because he struggles with addiction. Those are serious issues, and the game clearly wants you to sympathize with him. My problem is that the game wants all the sympathy in the world for Shane, but it barely makes him accountable to the people he hurts or neglects.
Especially Jas.
That is the part that makes me genuinely aggravated.
Jas lost her parents. She lives with Marnie. Marnie herself is already compromised because she’s dealing with Lewis, running the ranch, going to the Saloon, and somehow functioning as the closest thing Jas has to a stable guardian. Penny basically has to fill in the education gap because Pelican Town apparently has no school system.
And what does Shane do?
He goes to a job he hates, drinks at the Saloon, snaps at the farmer, spirals, and then waits for the player to drag him through his emotional development arc.
And yes, I know he’s struggling. I know he’s not okay. But the second Jas enters the conversation, it stops being only about Shane. He is not just “sad rude chicken man.” He is an adult with a child in his life who needs him.
That six-heart event drives me insane because when you mention Jas, Shane basically goes, “You’re right, now I feel even worse.”
BROTHER.
If you know Jas needs you, then why are you not doing something about it? Why does the farmer have to be the one to remind you that the traumatized child in your house needs emotional support? Why does Shane treat Charlie the chicken with more visible affection and consistency than his own goddaughter?
And the marriage route makes it worse.
Because if you marry Shane, he just moves to your farm, and Jas is still at Marnie’s. So now it feels like he has once again escaped responsibility, except this time the farmer has become his new emotional caretaker.
That is the nail in the coffin for me.
Not the messy room. Not the awkward beer jokes. Not even the fact that his post-marriage arc feels undercooked. It’s Jas. It’s always Jas.
The game uses Jas to make Shane seem sympathetic, but it does not give enough attention to whether Shane actually shows up for her afterward. Where is the apology scene? Where is the moment where he starts spending real time with her? Where is the event where he tells Marnie he wants to help more? Where is the evidence that he is becoming more than just “less actively self-destructive”?
Because without that, Shane’s arc feels incomplete. The farmer should not be responsible for fixing Shane if Shane is not going to take responsibility for the people who already needed him.
And honestly, that’s the thing about Stardew Valley once you start thinking about it too much.
The whole town is adorable, but it also runs on avoidance. Gus avoids setting boundaries. Lewis avoids accountability. Demetrius avoids emotional responsibility. Marnie avoids confronting Lewis. Shane avoids Jas. Grandpa avoided basic property maintenance.
Then the farmer shows up and has to fix the farm, fix the Community Center, fix the bus, fix everyone’s trauma, fix the local economy, fix the greenhouse, fix the mines, fix Pam’s tab, and somehow still make it home in time to water 300 ancient fruit plants.
Pelican Town is not a cozy village. It is a group therapy session with farming mechanics.