Farming in Stardew Valley VS Farming in real life

I just had another difference between Stardew and real life occur to me: squirrels and rabbits. Also crows.

Those cute little squirrels and rabbits that periodically dash up or away from trees in Stardew are, in real life, an utter menace to gardens. They will eat your plants, dig them up, randomly bury other seeds in your garden bed (I have so many oak seedlings popping up in mine right now!) . . . they are terrible, evil little garden chaos monsters. Crows, on the other hand? The worst problem I've had with crows is that they will try to hide food in my garden beds by placing it on top of the dirt and covering it with leaves or dried grass. Very, very occasionally one of my crow neighbors gets into a snit about something and yanks at one of my plants while yelling at the top of his/her little crow lungs. They don't really bother the plants or seeds otherwise, though. Not like squirrels and rabbits. My husband has a vendetta against both; the only reason they're safe in our yard is that we live in the city and we are not allowed to take them out (and eat them; both are pretty tasty).
This does depend on region mind you, here in the Columbia Gorge I have had few problems with squirrels and that is mostly because of the strategic placement of the farms I've worked on, usually near large cliffs or water, where the squirrels are much more content interacting with their natural habitat then even coming close to the human farm, though having worked in many different farms I completely know what you mean, squirrels can be a hell of an annoyance, crows I've only had major problems when on larger farms, I used to have scarecrows dressed as British redcoats in my old farm, however, crows are smart little bastards and this only worked for a little bit.

Also, coyotes, wolves, and coyotes, and maybe raccoons, which are less a danger to crops and more a danger to livestock.

Here in the Gorge, (And most of the Northwest) it is prime living for animals like wolves and coyotes, I still remember having a mini heart attack whenever I went to bed and suddenly question whether I closed the doors or not, and I would run outside to see that I indeed did close the doors. In Stardew Valley I still close the chicken door and barn doors just out of habit even though in the game it doesn't matter...to my knowledge anyhow.

My current garden is closer to town so I don't have to worry about coyotes and the like, however, raccoons are still a problem.

I've returned to this after a while and I'm glad to see a few other farming folks to give their input, it is such a joy. I got reminded of this place after seeing an article written about this thread, which while I was embarrassed upon seeing it, sure it also motivated me to come back here. :wchicken:
 

Anhaga

Rancher
Also, coyotes, wolves, and coyotes, and maybe raccoons, which are less a danger to crops and more a danger to livestock.

Here in the Gorge, (And most of the Northwest) it is prime living for animals like wolves and coyotes, I still remember having a mini heart attack whenever I went to bed and suddenly question whether I closed the doors or not, and I would run outside to see that I indeed did close the doors. In Stardew Valley I still close the chicken door and barn doors just out of habit even though in the game it doesn't matter...to my knowledge anyhow.
Yes! Predators can really wreak havoc on livestock. We had a fox family living on our land when we were still in Virginia, and they were unfortunately smart enough that they learned how to flush our chickens through the electronet. I had to start completely locking them up at night after that, and the few that refused to roost in the coop were pretty quickly eaten by the foxes. That has made me paranoid enough that even now, when we're living in town, I'm going to be buying a coop with a welded wire enclosure. The most dangerous thing we have that comes near our yard is hawks, but those foxes taught me a lesson.
 

Robified

Greenhorn
"maybe it's not too hard to believe the world that Stardew Valley takes place in has a very wacky and weird climate for one region to hold the summers of El Salvador and the winters of Finland."

Never been to Canada then, eh? ;)
 

Caamper

Greenhorn
I'm from the rural northeast, and I live on a farm. I have compiled a list of inaccuracies:

  • It’s impossible to till an entire acre by hand with a basic garden hoe by yourself in one day. That’s what tractor ploughs are for.
  • By the time that the game takes place (The 90s), a huge plot of crops can’t be watered by hand with a watering can. You need to use hoses.
  • The ducks in the game seem to be mallards. Mallard drakes (Male ducks) are green. The ducks in-game are green. Males animals don’t lay eggs, yet they do in the game?
  • You can hatch chicken eggs. But, all the chickens are hens? How do they hatch without a rooster?
  • For some reason, all fruit trees can only bear three of their respective fruits at a time? In real life, they can bear much more? In a whole season, all types of trees can only bear 28, but in real life the average apple tree bears around 150 maximum?
  • In the game, you never have to deal with pest animals other than crows? Like, where are the songbirds, woodchucks and deer?
  • You never have to prune fruit trees or bushes in the game?
  • Most plants don’t die when seasons change in real life, they become dormant, and kind of just sleep.
  • In real life, maple syrup doesn’t just come from the tree as a ready sap. You have to cook it in a huge vat over a giant burner in a special smokehouse building.
  • Rabbits don’t live in coops! They live in hutches built specially for rabbits!
  • Scarecrows don’t keep crows away. They keep other animals away, but not crows.
  • You never see the bees, even though you have a bee house.
  • The chicken coops have windows without screens? At least have hardware cloth or something! Predators could easily get through!
  • Why is there a random inaccessible fenced off area to the side of the coop? Is it supposed to be a run?
  • Oh, god. The inside of the coop. It’s designed horribly. Wooden floors without litter? Random pile of straw in the corner? Pail of water that would easily get dumped over and make a huge mess of mold? Some tray for hay?
  • Chickens don’t even eat hay! They eat grain and pellets! They eat live grass, but not juiceless dried grass! Their real-life diet is insects, plants, fruits and vegetables, and yet they never get a variety of food!
  • Chickens need to dust bathe. They never have dirt or dust or sand to roll around in, though.
  • Somehow, after you milk a cow, the milk is just automatically in the bottle? No need to pasteurize it?
  • Ducks are naturally amphibious birds. They need to swim in water. I thought everyone knew that, but apparently the developer didn’t?!
  • The rabbits in the game seem to be New Zealand rabbits, which, in real life, don’t produce wool; Angora rabbits do, and even they don’t just shed it, you brush the rabbit to gather it.
  • Why do the pigs instinctively know how to dig up truffles? In real life, farmers train the pigs to specifically sniff out the truffles, and they keep them on leashes while they get them to dig them up, not just let them roam free.
  • In real life, after grass is cut, it needs to sit for a few days in order to turn into hay, because it needs contact with sunlight for the juices to evaporate, drying it and turning it into hay. It can’t be immediately fed to animals after being bailed.
  • Speaking of that, hay isn’t even bailed in the game! It has to be bailed to easily store it.
  • Hay isn’t stored in silos, grain is, and grain’s never used in the game. Hay bales are stored in barns or sheds.
 

Worblehat

Planter
Impressive necromancy! :skull: (Forum guidelines: "If the topic is not about a game suggestion or a bug report, it's better to make a new thread over replying to an inactive one.")

Regarding this topic as a whole - I find it strange that people have all these issues about "realism" in a game that includes magic. And dwarves. And mysterious shadow people. And magma sprites, dinosaurs, fish that can stay alive in chests indefinitely, etc., etc. Realism is not a thing in this game.
 

Johndeere756

Planter
I do not farm for a living, but I do have a 5 acre hobby farm. Big garden, chickens ,rabbits, ducks, even guineas. Yes, farming in Stardew Valley is nothing like real life, thank goodness!!
 

esmey_cx

Newcomer
G'day to ya!

As you may or may not know I am a farmer in the Northwest and Stardew Valley is a game about farming in a region largely based off of the Northwest, and so, Stardew Valley really made me feel at home playing it for the first time...and really any time after.

However, Stardew Valley does not hold itself up well in terms of accuracy, as you may have already guessed, this is a thread and post dedicated to educating people on the differences between farming in Stardew Valley and farming in real life.

Also, in no way is this a criticism towards the game, I really don't care if it's inaccurate to actual farming, this is all for fun and also to teach folks a thing or two about agriculture.

An obvious inaccuracy is the seasonal growth of crops and plants, for the most part, concerned ape got the seasons in which plants grow correct, and in a simple farming game like Stardew Valley, that's all that has to matter, however in real life, the time plants are planted and harvest is largely the same, in which during the summer and spring a farmer will plant the seeds, and it's only during the fall when they all grow. When it comes to seasonal crops like Cauliflower, Corn, and Pumpkins, this is usually the case, Cauliflower is often planted in the Spring, and becomes mature in the late summer or early fall, Corn and Pumpkins are planted in early summer and become mature in late fall, this is why fall is often referred to as the harvest season, as most crops become harvestable in the fall.

However, in real life, it is never that simple. In Stardew Valley, growing crops isn't all that difficult, keep the plants watered and rid of any critters and crows and she'll be grand. Now you'll remember I mentioned about how Cauliflower is planted in spring and harvested in late summer, but this is implying that the cauliflower even grows to begin with. Cauliflower is a sensitive plant and demands a consistent temperature, so this is why most farmers (Myself included) start growing cauliflower in early spring inside a greenhouse, early spring is far too cold for cauliflower in the northwest but it is economically smart to grow in early spring to get crops ready to harvest early and ready to sell, so greenhouses are very helpful in that regard, but even this doesn't guarantee the growth of the cauliflower, cauliflower is difficult to grow, even some of the most experienced farmers have trouble with it. It is a popular saying that if you can grow cauliflower, you can grow everything, which I believe to be true.

Corn is also a tough crop to grow, corn is a type of grass that requires good pollination to grow well, the yellowest corn is the corn that got the best pollination. So how do you maximize corn pollination? Well, unlike flowers and some other crops, corn doesn't get pollinated by bees and other pollinators, instead, they get pollinated in their early stages in life, pollen gets blown by the wind and into the soil that corn is growing, and this is why farmers tend to plant corn in flat open areas without trees or cliffs blocking them (though keep in mind that just about all plants have specific ways to be planted and cared for) corn also demands a good bit of nitrogen, it was always interesting to me why you couldn't toil the soil and plant seeds on grass tiles in the game because planting crop seeds in the grass is sometimes the best option depending on the crop you're planting, corn, for example, grows better with grass, and a simple way of growing corn would be to shovel up a tuff of grass, flip it over and then plant the corn seeds after that.

Now, this post is getting quite long, so I think I'll end it here, but I still have so much I want to talk about in terms of the farming aspect in Stardew Valley, so I will hopefully post more after this, I implore you to give topics or ask questions about the farming aspect, and how it differs from real life, now I'm no expert, in fact, I don't even own a farm anymore, but I will try my best to give you the things I have learned from my years of experience, from animals to orchards, until then, I hope you have a good day, and that you learned something interesting.:wchicken:
Loved your post I wish that farming was more accessible than it is now I hate that trades are dying and those willing to teach it are gone because it's so fascinating to learn about.
 

stardew_luv

Farmer
Wow this thread is an amazing insight into irl farming. Thank you so much for sharing this with all of us!
For me personally, whether fully realistic or not I love this game because I always wanted to live on a farm but never could irl due to my disability. So with this game I can pretend and have fun and an insight into the tremendous amount of work Farmers and Farmhands must do each and every day. As much as I hate the games fast pace time clock it makes it more realistic of how little work one person can accomplish in a single day. But I love it too cause I can live vicariously through my pixelated farmer in a world of country living I could never experience irl.
 

Flutterdoc

Sodbuster
G'day to ya!

As you may or may not know I am a farmer in the Northwest and Stardew Valley is a game about farming in a region largely based off of the Northwest, and so, Stardew Valley really made me feel at home playing it for the first time...and really any time after.

However, Stardew Valley does not hold itself up well in terms of accuracy, as you may have already guessed, this is a thread and post dedicated to educating people on the differences between farming in Stardew Valley and farming in real life.

Also, in no way is this a criticism towards the game, I really don't care if it's inaccurate to actual farming, this is all for fun and also to teach folks a thing or two about agriculture.

An obvious inaccuracy is the seasonal growth of crops and plants, for the most part, concerned ape got the seasons in which plants grow correct, and in a simple farming game like Stardew Valley, that's all that has to matter, however in real life, the time plants are planted and harvest is largely the same, in which during the summer and spring a farmer will plant the seeds, and it's only during the fall when they all grow. When it comes to seasonal crops like Cauliflower, Corn, and Pumpkins, this is usually the case, Cauliflower is often planted in the Spring, and becomes mature in the late summer or early fall, Corn and Pumpkins are planted in early summer and become mature in late fall, this is why fall is often referred to as the harvest season, as most crops become harvestable in the fall.

However, in real life, it is never that simple. In Stardew Valley, growing crops isn't all that difficult, keep the plants watered and rid of any critters and crows and she'll be grand. Now you'll remember I mentioned about how Cauliflower is planted in spring and harvested in late summer, but this is implying that the cauliflower even grows to begin with. Cauliflower is a sensitive plant and demands a consistent temperature, so this is why most farmers (Myself included) start growing cauliflower in early spring inside a greenhouse, early spring is far too cold for cauliflower in the northwest but it is economically smart to grow in early spring to get crops ready to harvest early and ready to sell, so greenhouses are very helpful in that regard, but even this doesn't guarantee the growth of the cauliflower, cauliflower is difficult to grow, even some of the most experienced farmers have trouble with it. It is a popular saying that if you can grow cauliflower, you can grow everything, which I believe to be true.

Corn is also a tough crop to grow, corn is a type of grass that requires good pollination to grow well, the yellowest corn is the corn that got the best pollination. So how do you maximize corn pollination? Well, unlike flowers and some other crops, corn doesn't get pollinated by bees and other pollinators, instead, they get pollinated in their early stages in life, pollen gets blown by the wind and into the soil that corn is growing, and this is why farmers tend to plant corn in flat open areas without trees or cliffs blocking them (though keep in mind that just about all plants have specific ways to be planted and cared for) corn also demands a good bit of nitrogen, it was always interesting to me why you couldn't toil the soil and plant seeds on grass tiles in the game because planting crop seeds in the grass is sometimes the best option depending on the crop you're planting, corn, for example, grows better with grass, and a simple way of growing corn would be to shovel up a tuff of grass, flip it over and then plant the corn seeds after that.

Now, this post is getting quite long, so I think I'll end it here, but I still have so much I want to talk about in terms of the farming aspect in Stardew Valley, so I will hopefully post more after this, I implore you to give topics or ask questions about the farming aspect, and how it differs from real life, now I'm no expert, in fact, I don't even own a farm anymore, but I will try my best to give you the things I have learned from my years of experience, from animals to orchards, until then, I hope you have a good day, and that you learned something interesting.:wchicken:
ayo nice, this helps ive been wanting to do farming, and this should help some!
 
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