Today Beauty Standard

Lew Zealand

Helper
And don't forget that the actors for Friends were chosen for their looks as well as having decent to good acting chops. This wasn't always the case, as actors (especially male ones) used to be chosen more for their acting skills and less for looks, though of course looks could make a difference between 2 or 3 otherwise similar candidates.

I always think of Dr. McCoy on the original '60s Star Trek. Supposed to have known Captain Kirk for a long time but actor DeForest Kelley was clearly much older than William Shatner, and Kelley was not a great looking guy. He'd never have gotten that role in the 1990s or later but was a known, quality actor at the time and got the role. 1990s and earlier UK TV seems the same as many shows were crafted around a quality actor while more recently it seems there is a lot of content crafted around a good looking personality.

However remember this opinion has a heavy bias towards the longevity of older shows with the actual quality properties having a long life after they've ended, while the poorer (more superficial?) shows quickly fade to oblivion. But when looking at shows currently in production, you see everything: the quality and the trash. Same goes for music: the 60s-80s had a lot of trash pop music but we only remember what's stood the test of time and then many decry how bad today's music is. There's the same longevity bias there.
 
@Lew Zealand
I agree with what you said. I know there are plenty of great good looking actors and actresses who did not have their chance...
I always wondered why some of them happen to be homeless and forced to work more than two jobs to survive themselves.
I have a weird feeling that most actors or actresses we see on TV or movies today happen to have a lot of connections, wealth, and influences.
I can tell for sure they have easy access to plastic surgery....(not everyone can afford to do that)The same goes for the fashion industry; nowadays, people are more interested in rich kids than the average girl next door.
Most of the clothes feel irrelevant and impractical to the majority of people.
Overall, everything is strangely indoctrinated by the wealthy and foreign investors. I guess nowadays the industry undervalued the hardwork and creative works of people. –it's a sad reality....
 

haywud

Sodbuster
Are those real people in that first image? I'm sorry, but if that's considered beautiful then there is something wrong with people's vision nowadays. Those people aren't good looking, they look like they're coated with layer after layer of makeup and there's at least one plastic surgery in there. They remind me of some of the awful looking characters people create in games like The Sims, where they download tons of makeup mods and throw it all over their characters. I'll tell you one thing, if I ever find someone I certainly won't care how they look and even if I did I wouldn't want them to look like those mannequins.
 

HorrorCat

Farmhand
I’m horrified that I look at the first image (I’m a senior in high school) and think “They’re so pretty!“ … and then I look at the second image and… the only one I think is pretty is the redhead. 0-0 Kinda terrifying.
Cause… they look fake, waxy, and plastic, but my mind just makes me think it’s beautiful. I hate it. I hate this so much. This is why young people have issues with their appearance… because THAT is the standard.
 
If it was a show today it would be called I•n•f•l•u•e•n•c•e•r•s. Instead of them getting into zany adventures it's just them in a living room looking at their phones when not recording with the occasional Amazon delivery and arguing over who gets to use the pelaton

Racheal is toting a line of fem hygiene products that tend to cause bladder infections called Boop mascot is a tiny cat

Joey is commenting on nft stocks

Chandler is trying to sell his books about frog feminization

Phoebe is selling hand made candles and essential oils(not really changing it)

Monica is a foody who does mukbang and show weight loss videos

Ross is doing spirituality of the armadillo self help books
 
I’m horrified that I look at the first image (I’m a senior in high school) and think “They’re so pretty!“ … and then I look at the second image and… the only one I think is pretty is the redhead. 0-0 Kinda terrifying.
Cause… they look fake, waxy, and plastic, but my mind just makes me think it’s beautiful. I hate it. I hate this so much. This is why young people have issues with their appearance… because THAT is the standard.
I have an idea. You could share these images with your friends what they think about the beauty standard. I am concerned about how the younger generation is pressured to have this unrealistic beauty standard. Warning and educating many people would save a lot of their lives.
 

Corvus

Sodbuster
But when looking at shows currently in production, you see everything: the quality and the trash. Same goes for music: the 60s-80s had a lot of trash pop music but we only remember what's stood the test of time and then many decry how bad today's music is. There's the same longevity bias there.
Sturgeon's Law: 90% of everything is crap.

Abut ten years ago I was going to Burning Man and also taking a couple in their mid-twenties. I plugged in my MP3 player and called up my Road Mix, songs from the mid-60s to mid-70s with a good, driving beat, plus a few from earlier -- Ventures and Chuck Berry -- and later -- Talking Heads, Queen. All before they were born. They commented, "Say, this music's good!"

I told them, "Well, it's the best of the best, music I still wanna listen to 40+ years later. There is much, much more that is, deservedly, forgotten."
 

astatine210

Rancher
I applaud people who do this for being able to take the time to get their faces to that level of "made-up"ness, but it looks like they took their fashion cues from a cartoon... speaking of, the indoctrination into this type of expectation of beauty starts young especially for girls:
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With my girls i try to keep their expectations of beauty in check, but i'll be honest, with content like this available to them, it can be an uphill battle.
 

Magically Clueless

Administrator
Staff member
I applaud people who do this for being able to take the time to get their faces to that level of "made-up"ness, but it looks like they took their fashion cues from a cartoon... speaking of, the indoctrination into this type of expectation of beauty starts young especially for girls:
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With my girls i try to keep their expectations of beauty in check, but i'll be honest, with content like this available to them, it can be an uphill battle.
honestly, i wish i got into things like monster high (the image you shared) when i was a kid, because i always loved dressing up and brands like monster high had a style and expression that you didn't often see in dolls before. dolls let kids explore creatively and to make their own worlds, and i (personally) don't think they tend to focus on the girls being skinny or having certain faces (and hilariously enough, monster high dolls are actually some of the few dolls that use different face molds for their characters)

i think what influences beauty standards and unhealthy habits on young people is social media and celebrities on social media. they only see the "good" and there's a ton of studies out there that shows how big of a morale killer social media is
 

LRangerR

Local Legend
i think what influences beauty standards and unhealthy habits on young people is social media and celebrities on social media. they only see the "good" and there's a ton of studies out there that shows how big of a morale killer social media is
It's almost one of those things where like, they spend so much time listening to other people's thoughts, that they don't have time for thoughts of their own. Especially with how prevalent and bombarding it can be these days.
 

astatine210

Rancher
honestly, i wish i got into things like monster high (the image you shared) when i was a kid, because i always loved dressing up and brands like monster high had a style and expression that you didn't often see in dolls before. dolls let kids explore creatively and to make their own worlds, and i (personally) don't think they tend to focus on the girls being skinny or having certain faces (and hilariously enough, monster high dolls are actually some of the few dolls that use different face molds for their characters)

i think what influences beauty standards and unhealthy habits on young people is social media and celebrities on social media. they only see the "good" and there's a ton of studies out there that shows how big of a morale killer social media is
I definitely agree that social media is a huge driver for self-image and mental health issues, but again, the kids shows are heavily influenced by the culture they are created in (because nothing of this sort is made in a vacuum). Again, having seen my kids (girls under 10 years old) growing up primarily watching these kids shows and with little to no access to social media (other than dog and cat tiktok/instagram videos that my family shows them), there is a theme that is subconsciously reinforced as far as what is acceptable and what isn't "beauty standard" wise. They have had a huge influence on what colours they gravitated towards, styles of clothing they prefer, and demands for make-up for daily use.
 
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