Remixed Mines is Finally Solved

Speaking of Joja do you think co-op would allow for both the soda machine and trophy to be collected on the same save? Also now that we know we can dupe saves that can be tested with no consequences in case the game freaks out
This would not be possible as you can only go on one route which only can be chosen by the host of the farm
 
Penny Fences? I don't even know where to begin to look up info on that item.

@SamTheSkeleton Yeah I would agree.
Besides the storageable Weed item from Mushroom which was from a glitch so I am okay with not having it in the current save.
The stardrop as a storageable item, which was fixed as a glitch.
Penny's potential other two sets of items (no POC yet).
Normal-grade legendary and pseudo-legendary fish (no POC yet or confirmation). I know silver-grade is possible at least.
 

Elenna101

Farmer
Normal-grade legendary and pseudo-legendary fish (no POC yet or confirmation). I know silver-grade is possible at least.
I've heard normal quality Legend is impossible because the area that it can be caught in doesn't include any tiles that are a low enough water depth for normal quality fish.

Although now that I think about it, the training rod forces normal quality, and apparently the legendary fish bypass the "only fish below difficulty 50" check on the training rod, so you could try that. But that means you won't be able to equip bait or tackle, so, uh, have fun.
 
Ohhh as long as it is possible! I figured as much but did not know about the Training Rod tip, so that's good to know thanks Elenna!!
If the bypass only applies to Legendary fishes then I assume their cousin pseudo-The Legend (I forgot its name) will not be able to have normal quality.

Fortunately, fishing is my favorite aspect of Stardew and I have fished up 100 Legends with or without all kinds of baits and tackles in the past (before a version update patches out getting multiple Legends). This will be tough, but will be rewarding and fun!
 

Elenna101

Farmer
Ohhh as long as it is possible! I figured as much but did not know about the Training Rod tip, so that's good to know thanks Elenna!!
If the bypass only applies to Legendary fishes then I assume their cousin pseudo-The Legend (I forgot its name) will not be able to have normal quality.
Not sure. IIRC the reason it can catch legendaries is because the code for getting a legendary on the line is separate from the normal fish-catching code, and it doesn't include the difficulty check for the training rod. I would guess the pseudo-legends are also coded seperately but not sure how it works exactly.
 
I'll check sometime this weekend. Currently on Year 1 Summer 11, blitzing through the contents. Just collected like 50 golden walnuts and is fishing level 8, will be a process...
Was trying to read the code, but FishingRod.cs was just too much for me, didn't want to parse through everything one by one. I do feel like isFishBossFish() method doesn't include the cousins, so unlikely to hold true but let's see.
 
Completely unrelated to the fish predicament but is anyone aware of a way to store the prismatic jelly, ectoplasm, qi beans, and qi fruit? I was thinking that perhaps making a profile specifically to get one of those items and then deleting the profile may trick the item into a state of purgatory where the quest is never completed and thus it never disappears but idk. Currently working on my second save and going to be trying tons of combinations of things to try to get the soda machine and trophy in the same file through save duping. I’m also dreading grinding for Penny 14 heart testing so I figured disappearing items would be a fun thing to try for ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
The profile thing won't work (just thinking out loud on the theory). If you think about how chests work, the storage is global and accessible to all and any players. In the same vein, the special quest board is accepted globally for every player once it is being accepted, and disappears globally once the allot time expires.
I will give that theory a try anyway and report my findings, but I find that route unlikely.
(But hey at least you can "store" Qi Fruit with a hat as a memoriam)

Don't forget to clone the quest items like Robin's Axe though before you give them back to the villager to complete the quest. I think these are the list of those items:
- Robin's Axe
- Lucky Purple Shorts
- Berry Basket
- All of Birdie's quest items
- Pierre's Missing Stocklist

I dread gifting villagers gift cause I just can't find them at all, but ever since I unlocked Ginger Island at least I can find them all consistently going there at once lol. Just chucking Pearls at them whenever I see them and hopefully can get Penny up soon. I should hopefully get the Penny situation tested before you in that case then, I will report back with findings on that too if that's the case.

Also sorry for hijacking your thread for the fishies! Maye I should create a separate thread for that. Nothing much to update on that front though. The cousins don't work with training rod and the legendaries do work.


EDIT: Thought about checking with Junimo Chests shenanigans as a possible exploit but it seems like any glitches concerning that was patched in 1.5.2 as well. If you had a version before that this should work technically, but since Eric meant for it to be removed, any other exploits probably might get fixed, so I'm not worry about it. This could be an option for you though if you are laggard on the updates: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Junimo_Chest

EDIT2: Maybe we can also try putting these items outside of the farm on a table somewhere and then try retrieving them (if they are not already removed by game) after the quest is complete. Not sure how the items are checked for erasure but the Junimo Chests thing make me feel like the check is not as exhaustive as I thought.

EDIT3: Qi Beans are getting similar patches / fixes: https://stardewcommunitywiki.com/Qi_Bean

EDIT4: OK, apparently I've been just really unlucky cause I just got the Radioactive Carp with the Training Rod just now, after not finding it in 13 Carps yesterday.
 
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The profile thing won't work (just thinking out loud on the theory). If you think about how chests work, the storage is global and accessible to all and any players. In the same vein, the special quest board is accepted globally for every player once it is being accepted, and disappears globally once the allot time expires.
I will give that theory a try anyway and report my findings, but I find that route unlikely.
(But hey at least you can "store" Qi Fruit with a hat as a memoriam)

Don't forget to clone the quest items like Robin's Axe though before you give them back to the villager to complete the quest. I think these are the list of those items:
- Robin's Axe
- Lucky Purple Shorts
- Berry Basket
- All of Birdie's quest items
- Pierre's Missing Stocklist

I dread gifting villagers gift cause I just can't find them at all, but ever since I unlocked Ginger Island at least I can find them all consistently going there at once lol. Just chucking Pearls at them whenever I see them and hopefully can get Penny up soon. I should hopefully get the Penny situation tested before you in that case then, I will report back with findings on that too if that's the case.

Also sorry for hijacking your thread for the fishies! Maye I should create a separate thread for that. Nothing much to update on that front though. The cousins don't work with training rod and the legendaries do work.


EDIT: Thought about checking with Junimo Chests shenanigans as a possible exploit but it seems like any glitches concerning that was patched in 1.5.2 as well. If you had a version before that this should work technically, but since Eric meant for it to be removed, any other exploits probably might get fixed, so I'm not worry about it. This could be an option for you though if you are laggard on the updates: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Junimo_Chest

EDIT2: Maybe we can also try putting these items outside of the farm on a table somewhere and then try retrieving them (if they are not already removed by game) after the quest is complete. Not sure how the items are checked for erasure but the Junimo Chests thing make me feel like the check is not as exhaustive as I thought.

EDIT3: Qi Beans are getting similar patches / fixes: https://stardewcommunitywiki.com/Qi_Bean

EDIT4: OK, apparently I've been just really unlucky cause I just got the Radioactive Carp with the Training Rod just now, after not finding it in 13 Carps yesterday.
Np for starting a conversation on the fish, they are just as important. On the topic of the disappearing items tho… Qi fruit and maybe the beans are storeable if you sell them to Pierre and buy them back once the quest is over so that’s cool. Ectoplasm and the Prismatic Jelly are a different story however. I’ve tried storing the item on tables and in chests and in a second player’s inventory I’ve even stored the items in player 2s inventory and went back to two player and added the second player after the quest was complete. None of these worked although I have one final idea which involves joining online multiplayer then duping the farm then progress with the game and finish the prismatic slime and or ectoplasm quest then on the copyed version of the farm that’s still on day one get a prismatic slime and or ectoplasm quit out and join the copy that has completed the quest
 
On the topic of the disappearing items tho… Qi fruit and maybe the beans are storeable if you sell them to Pierre and buy them back once the quest is over so that’s cool.
Oh wow! That is something! Although that does mean you will never be able to accept that quest again unless you are willing to go through this all over again (or in the case there's a future patch, to never accept it again). Though, I don't really miss that quest IMO xD

I just saw your new thread on this, so I will move there as well. Appreciate your testing through all these edge cases :)
 
And finally Penny, I’ll have to test whether multiplayer allows for the 14 heart event to be done 3 times but it may or may not work given 14 heart events can only be activated once per save as of current knowledge.

The minimum amount of items that you cannot get on one save is 7. (Assuming Penny can only be activated once) One for Joja/Cc. Two for remixed mines. And four for Penny.

Edit: Penny could mean an extra save file or she could bring the minimum down to 3.
An update on the Penny situation.
It is indeed one 14 heart event per player and not per save. The wiki could be updated disambiguate the phrasing, as that was done for the legendary fish. Though I guess this is niche enough, the differentiation is not warranted.

It seems heart events aren't global at least (unlike Pierre's Stocklist), and can be retriggerable.
 

Pangaearocks

Planter
Oh wow! That is something! Although that does mean you will never be able to accept that quest again unless you are willing to go through this all over again (or in the case there's a future patch, to never accept it again). Though, I don't really miss that quest IMO xD
Doesn't work any longer, at least according to patch notes:
Fixed exploit where Qi beans/fruit weren't removed from machines/craftables after the challenge expires.
Qi Beans are now properly removed from any machines/craftables and from Marlon's item recovery service after the Qi Challenge expires.
 

Pangaearocks

Planter
I can see how that would work yeah. But then we're really talking about a different product, so no need for the game to remove those really. You can't convert that jelly or wine back to Qi seeds or fruits anyway.
 

FilthyGorilla

Local Legend
Heya @SamTheSkeleton
You can keep qi fruit and beans by selling them to pierre and buying them back the day after, on average you will lose about 17% of what you sold I believe but it's not too bad, do note though that these will disappear if you accept and finish/fail the quest another time so don't.
You can also keep them in jarred and wine form, I have both as well as in the hat once used to tailor.
 
Doesn't seem like the Beans get to be bought back based on my tests. Please let me know if that is wrong, and otherwise how it can be accomplished!
 

FilthyGorilla

Local Legend
Doesn't seem like the Beans get to be bought back based on my tests. Please let me know if that is wrong, and otherwise how it can be accomplished!
It used to be, might have been patched in 1.5.6 as I did it before then, usually I just sold them straight to pierre and then when then quest expired the next day I went and bought them
 
An update on the Penny situation.
It is indeed one 14 heart event per player and not per save. The wiki could be updated disambiguate the phrasing, as that was done for the legendary fish. Though I guess this is niche enough, the differentiation is not warranted.

It seems heart events aren't global at least (unlike Pierre's Stocklist), and can be retriggerable.
That’s insane!! I think now the only outliers are the ectoplasm prismatic jelly and the trophy/soda machine which is some amazing progress thank you so much for keeping me updated! Also sorry I’ve been so dead lol I just started college and have been settling in
 
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