Making more money quicker?

Tinks

Planter
What things do you grow or animals you keep that makes the most money early game? I'm trying to save for barns in one game and kitchen in the other and its taking ages to make 6,000 - 10,000 gold!


so far my crop growing areas are really small as not making enough to buy loads of seeds most days are under 100g.

also which things make more been put in the farm bin at night and which make more being sold in shop???

oh and Pam asks for Pale ale and Kenny really wants to impress her cos he wants to marry Penny but the saloon doesn't have pale ale only beer????

Does any one character give better gifts if you befriend them first that I can sell for more money?


Edit; I forgot to say...I'm on switch version so no mods/cheats available to fill my bank instantly or anything like that!
 

Ereo

Helper
Early game, I usually plant enough crops that I finish watering around midday. I'm too lazy to water more ;)

I'm not a min/max player, so others can probably point you to the quickest strategy. I find that cheese and mayo provide a good steady income.

Fishing is a good source of income early game as well.

Farm bin and shops give the same price. If you sell something through the bin, it will count towards your collection and achievements, if you sell it at the shop, you get the money immediately. And sometimes related dialogue.

Pale ale is something you need to make. As your farming level rises, you unlock equipment to craft. For pale ale, you need to put hops in a keg.

In general, processed goods give more money than raw products, so always keep an eye on the crafting tab to see what you can do!

I think the gifts are well balanced, and they are so infrequent that I wouldn't worry about befriending special characters.
 
In spring, parsnips give you the fastest turn around for your money; they increase in value by at least 75% in just 4 days. The downside is that parsnips require your farmer to do a lot more work in terms of watering. Other crops earn more money per seed per day, but they have a much higher pricetag, so they don't grow your money as fast.

Example, one parsnip earns 15g in 4 days, or 3.75g/day, while one cauliflower earns 95g in 12 days, or 7.91g/day. But cauliflower seeds cost 80g, parsnip seeds just 20g. So you get 4x as many parsnips, meaning the 80g spent on 4 parsnips will earn you 15g/day, almost twice as good as that lone cauliflower.

Once you get into summer, you probably still won't have much capacity for processing, so wheat will grow your money fastest, but again it's hard work. On the plus side, it also gives you free hay when you harvest, which will come in handy when you get animals. Or, if you don't fancy replanting every four days, hot pepper is a pretty close second, as you only plant once and you can harvest the same plant every three days, but this relies on getting it planted on the first day of the season

In fall, the hands down winner for fastest seasonal cash growth without processing is eggplant, if you plant on Fall 1.

Later in the game, once you have lots of money for seeds, and lots of processing options, your crop choices will tend to move away from the cheap seeds to the expensive ones. Good luck
 

Tinks

Planter
how do you make cheese?

I'm still struggling with the fishing. I've only caught the first one then the green thing seems to speed up and shoot up and erratically and the other bar seems to drop down to red much faster.
 

Phate4569

Planter
how do you make cheese?

I'm still struggling with the fishing. I've only caught the first one then the green thing seems to speed up and shoot up and erratically and the other bar seems to drop down to red much faster.
That means that the fish on the hook is rarer. Be sure to buy the Training Rod off Willy, it will help you develop your skill.

You make cheese by putting milk in cheese machines, you get milk from cows or goats.

Check out the wiki, there is a lot of good information there.
 

imnvs

Local Legend
how do you make cheese?

I'm still struggling with the fishing. I've only caught the first one then the green thing seems to speed up and shoot up and erratically and the other bar seems to drop down to red much faster.
That means that the fish on the hook is rarer. Be sure to buy the Training Rod off Willy, it will help you develop your skill.

You make cheese by putting milk in cheese machines, you get milk from cows or goats.

Check out the wiki, there is a lot of good information there.
...and if you don't want to check out the wiki so as to avoid spoilers while you're new?

Regarding cheese:
A lot of the processing you'll be doing comes from farming. You are either processing fruits/veg or animal byproducts (aka farming)... and coincidentally (not really) a lot of the devices called "machines" that you use to do that processing are unlocked by upping your farming skill. There are machines for processing milk, goat milk, eggs, wool... and you'll get them all. Don't worry.

Regarding fishing:
Definitely get the training rod if you have not. It restricts you to basic fish, but it also treats things as if your fishing skill was much higher than it is. After you get a few levels of fishing, which also means you've gotten some practice at fishing, you can switch to the fiberglass rod... and then you'll have access to more difficult fish when you're better at fishing, and catching them means even more experience.
 
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Early in the game it can be slow and steady. I do a lot of foraging for fairly small daily income. Also foraging doesn't use energy. When I'm trying to scrape up money I loop the whole place. The beach, up by Robin's and the mine, the bus stop and backwoods, the cindersap forest and spring onion place, and the upper town by the community center and playground- I will usually find at least a few things to sell.
 

Tinks

Planter
Thanks I spent hours making 10,000 for the duck barn this morning then it wouldn't let me have it as have to have an existing barn first to upgrade which is ridiculous as ducks are way cheaper to keep than cows and sheep!! ...but in-game you're paying 6,000 for a regular barn then 10,000 to upgrade it for ducks!!! Don't know what kind of farms the creator went on where ducks cost triple the cost of cows and sheep to keep!!!

So just upgraded the house instead as I'd spent all that time getting the money I wanted something to show for it..lol! so the Forest Farm has a Kitchen now!! :smile:


Back on 4 corners farm now, managed to get Kenny up to 2 hearts with Penny and growing some Melons and Poppies for her! I'll get cows first on this farm as milk is one of her favourites I think, so the regular barn will be my next purchase on this farm.

I don't know whether to grow hops on this one as alcohol is one of Penny's dislikes, but Pam wanted Pale Ale!! ...aarrgghh..the dilemma!!!
 

Ereo

Helper
Ducks go in the upgraded coop ;)

You always need the regular coop or barn first, and when you upgrade it the existing buildings get expanded.
 

Tinks

Planter
Ducks go in the upgraded coop ;)

You always need the regular coop or barn first, and when you upgrade it the existing buildings get expanded.
should be cheaper if its only an expansion and not a whole new bigger barn (from scratch). Thats like having to buy more for a conservatory than a whole house!
 

Elenna101

Farmer
One More Day already alluded to this a little, but if you have farming level 3, you can make preserves jars, which will more than double the profit of your crops, although the 8 coal needed per jar may be hard to come by if you're still on the copper levels of the mines.
(For the pale ale Pam wants, you'll need a keg which you get at farming 8. Those are also better total profit for most fruits, although they take more time. They do require iron though. If you're interested in the exact calculation of keg vs preserves jar profits, you can check the Keg and Preserves Jar pages on the wiki.)

The mining/combat definitely does take practice. Some tips:
  • Try to avoid/dodge enemies you can't kill quickly. The slimes in particular are relatively slow-moving except when they do that rush forwards, and take forever to kill, so try to stay away from them rather than fighting them if you can.
  • However, enemies do have a 15% chance of dropping a ladder if you kill them (as long as the tile they die on doesn't have anything else already on it, like a rock or dirt). So if you can kill an enemy quickly, do so. For example, the bugs that fly back and forth in a line should be killable with just one hit even with the rusty sword.
  • When fighting enemies, you ideally want to stand below (to the south) of them. Your hitbox is at your feet, but your weapon's hitbox basically starts from where your arms are, so if you stand below them you can basically reach farther with the sword without letting the enemy into your own hitbox.
  • Also, if you can pin an enemy (especially high-HP enemies like slimes) against a rock or wall, and then just keep hitting them, they can't really do anything to you.
  • Bring food! You want to be able to eat to get energy and health back. If you collected some salmonberries during the Spring 15-18 salmonberry season, those are a really good option for mining food. Otherwise, other foragables are a good option. I like to plant some hops in summer and use the gold-quality hops as mining food sometimes - not sure if that's actually cost-efficient, but they restore a lot of energy/health and you probably won't have kegs yet to process them with.
  • Break the wooden crates if you can, they can give food or gems or even rarely better weapons or rings
  • Once you get mining level 2, you'll be able to craft staircases. They cost 99 stone each, so you can't rely on them too much, but try to keep a couple hundred stone on you at all times in the mines, so that you can craft a ladder if you want to escape a floor quickly.
  • You can also buy better weapons at the Adventurer's Guild (you've probably had the letter from Marlon about opening the guild if you kill 10 green slimes). They keep stocking new weapons as you get further down, so keep checking back.
 
Yep Machines make money moreso than crops. If you want more money early, the answer is definitely not "more crops", it's the machines to process them, especially while you're stuck without good sprinklers.

That being said, the key to even More money early, in my opinion, is fishing. I can earn thousands of gold per day reliably if I'm fishing all day in Spring year 1. Your mileage certainly Will vary, by significant margins, as I've spent many many hours fishing and actual IRL skill at the fishing minigame is significantly more important than your in-game fishing skill. However, that doesn't change the fact that in game, time pauses while you're playing the minigame, it's very energy efficient, and very profitable early on.

You get the same price whether you sell stuff via the shipping bin or sell them directly to vendors, the reason to sell to Pierre or Willy your crops or fish respectively is if you want to get the money Immediately to reinvest same day. Early in the game I make it a point to do so since it's so valuable to be able to reinvest right away, later in the game when I've generally got more cash than I'm spending on any given day everything goes in the shipping bin.

The Pale Ale you need to craft, which is another reason to make machines ;-)

For best gifts, I'm going with Shane. He's the most annoying person to make friends with imho, but he gives you a VITAL recipe at 3 hearts, something you'll be munching on all day long for the next year+ if you're anything like me. Caroline, Willy and Linus also give some great stuff, but not as absolutely critical as what you can get from Shane, and I don't have to remind myself to be nice to them ;-)

Some random fishing tips:
Biggest thing to remember, and I think the biggest thing which throws people, is that pressing the button does NOT make the bar go up. Rather, pressing the button adds Upward MOMENTUM to the bar. The bar has downward momentum accumulating at all times while the button is not being pressed.

So, if you want to "hover" in place, you should be 'tapping' the button more than you are holding it, adding upward momentum to cancel gravity, but not too much. It's not a button spamming minigame or anything, you don't need to tap that fast, but just alternating press and release. I'd practice that until you can hold a given position on the bar other than the top or the bottom without trouble.

The other key is to not add too much upward momentum and overshoot your desired position, or to go too long without pressing and having the bar falling like a rock. You can do some fancy tricks with a lot of momentum, for example catching a certain wintery terror basically requires you to shoot up to the top and "bounce" off the top to follow him back down half the time, and some fish like to shoot down to the bottom and then just hang out down there, so you need to know how to kill the bar's momentum right before it lands so it doesn't bounce off the bottom. However it's far more useful to practice controlling your momentum and learn how to be less erratic in your movements, how to avoid overshooting, than it is to worry about that stuff early.

Other helpful stuff not directly related to the fishing minigame, but good to know for fishing in general:
You don't have to wait as long for a fish to bite if you cast into bubbles, so early on go for them whenever you see them. Otherwise, you're typically best casting as far away from shore (in all directions) as you can, you'll get better fish that way.

You get 2.2x the XP if you get a treasure chest, or 2.4x the XP for a perfect catch, so the key to massive XP early is to either get a perfect catch or to get a treasure chest, but you get a TON of XP if you manage to do both. So don't go for the treasure chest when it first appears, see if you naturally get the chance to pick it up during the catch, and only beeline for it if either it's apparent it won't otherwise happen or you already missed out on the perfect catch.

I hope at least some of that helps at least somewhat!
 

Boo1972

Farmer
Everyone’s advice is spot on and should really help you out. For short term cash, I do have an idea. Well, I wish I could claim credit for this.

So, my advice is tea tree saplings. Wickedy Chickedy released a YouTube video on this strategy, if you need more detailed information than I can provide you. She made over 1,000,000g her first year selling tea saplings alone.

First, befriend Caroline. If you talk to her every day and give her 2 gold star veggies a week, it will only take you 14 days to get her to 2 hearts. 2 hearts is all you need. I didn’t talk to her every day and gave some normal veggies as gifts. I still managed to befriend her in 16 days.

While you earn Caroline’s friendship, gather and hoard all of the wood and fiber you can. Also, forage as many horseradish’s, daffodils, dandelions and leeks as possible, turn them into wild seeds, plant them, harvest them and repeat.

Once you have 2 hearts with Caroline, enter the room in the back of her kitchen. If a cut scene doesn’t trigger, try again on another day. Once you’ve seen the pretty awesome cut scene (you’ll never look at Caroline the same again), she will send you a recipe for tree saplings in the mail.

You need fiber, wood, and wild seeds to make tea saplings, but they sell for 500g each. Just 20 of them will net 10,000g at no cost to you. As a bonus, you will be doing a lot of wood cutting, fiber harvesting and foraging anyway, so this strategy won’t really interfere with your other activities.

Good luck!
 

Tinks

Planter
Yep Machines make money moreso than crops. If you want more money early, the answer is definitely not "more crops", it's the machines to process them, especially while you're stuck without good sprinklers.

That being said, the key to even More money early, in my opinion, is fishing. I can earn thousands of gold per day reliably if I'm fishing all day in Spring year 1. Your mileage certainly Will vary, by significant margins, as I've spent many many hours fishing and actual IRL skill at the fishing minigame is significantly more important than your in-game fishing skill. However, that doesn't change the fact that in game, time pauses while you're playing the minigame, it's very energy efficient, and very profitable early on.

You get the same price whether you sell stuff via the shipping bin or sell them directly to vendors, the reason to sell to Pierre or Willy your crops or fish respectively is if you want to get the money Immediately to reinvest same day. Early in the game I make it a point to do so since it's so valuable to be able to reinvest right away, later in the game when I've generally got more cash than I'm spending on any given day everything goes in the shipping bin.

The Pale Ale you need to craft, which is another reason to make machines ;-)

For best gifts, I'm going with Shane. He's the most annoying person to make friends with imho, but he gives you a VITAL recipe at 3 hearts, something you'll be munching on all day long for the next year+ if you're anything like me. Caroline, Willy and Linus also give some great stuff, but not as absolutely critical as what you can get from Shane, and I don't have to remind myself to be nice to them ;-)

Some random fishing tips:
Biggest thing to remember, and I think the biggest thing which throws people, is that pressing the button does NOT make the bar go up. Rather, pressing the button adds Upward MOMENTUM to the bar. The bar has downward momentum accumulating at all times while the button is not being pressed.

So, if you want to "hover" in place, you should be 'tapping' the button more than you are holding it, adding upward momentum to cancel gravity, but not too much. It's not a button spamming minigame or anything, you don't need to tap that fast, but just alternating press and release. I'd practice that until you can hold a given position on the bar other than the top or the bottom without trouble.

The other key is to not add too much upward momentum and overshoot your desired position, or to go too long without pressing and having the bar falling like a rock. You can do some fancy tricks with a lot of momentum, for example catching a certain wintery terror basically requires you to shoot up to the top and "bounce" off the top to follow him back down half the time, and some fish like to shoot down to the bottom and then just hang out down there, so you need to know how to kill the bar's momentum right before it lands so it doesn't bounce off the bottom. However it's far more useful to practice controlling your momentum and learn how to be less erratic in your movements, how to avoid overshooting, than it is to worry about that stuff early.

Other helpful stuff not directly related to the fishing minigame, but good to know for fishing in general:
You don't have to wait as long for a fish to bite if you cast into bubbles, so early on go for them whenever you see them. Otherwise, you're typically best casting as far away from shore (in all directions) as you can, you'll get better fish that way.

You get 2.2x the XP if you get a treasure chest, or 2.4x the XP for a perfect catch, so the key to massive XP early is to either get a perfect catch or to get a treasure chest, but you get a TON of XP if you manage to do both. So don't go for the treasure chest when it first appears, see if you naturally get the chance to pick it up during the catch, and only beeline for it if either it's apparent it won't otherwise happen or you already missed out on the perfect catch.

I hope at least some of that helps at least somewhat!
Thanks for the fishing tips..I'll try again tomorrow. what is the fishing minigame? .

I'm getting most of my money from foraging. I chose forager when it asked me if I wanted more money for foraging or more wood from trees. (as still have loads of trees!!) I've managed to get a barn and 2 cows for 'Kenny's Farm' (4 corners Farm) and the Forest Farm just has 2 chickens at the minute (but I have the kitchen on that one). How do I rotate the barns when putting them down (on switch)? I couldn't work out how to place them exactly where I wanted as couldn't rotate the position

None of the characters have really given me any gifts yet in either game (had some gold for doing things for them) and in one I have Penny on 4 hearts and seen both her heart clips.

Anyway got both files to autumn Day 1 or 2 (or Fall as its called on there!). Isn't Penny's birthday in the fall? I missed loads cos I didn't know there was a calendar by the door of the shop with everyone' birthday on it!!
 

Tinks

Planter
Everyone’s advice is spot on and should really help you out. For short term cash, I do have an idea. Well, I wish I could claim credit for this.

So, my advice is tea tree saplings. Wickedy Chickedy released a YouTube video on this strategy, if you need more detailed information than I can provide you. She made over 1,000,000g her first year selling tea saplings alone.

First, befriend Caroline. If you talk to her every day and give her 2 gold star veggies a week, it will only take you 14 days to get her to 2 hearts. 2 hearts is all you need. I didn’t talk to her every day and gave some normal veggies as gifts. I still managed to befriend her in 16 days.

While you earn Caroline’s friendship, gather and hoard all of the wood and fiber you can. Also, forage as many horseradish’s, daffodils, dandelions and leeks as possible, turn them into wild seeds, plant them, harvest them and repeat.

Once you have 2 hearts with Caroline, enter the room in the back of her kitchen. If a cut scene doesn’t trigger, try again on another day. Once you’ve seen the pretty awesome cut scene (you’ll never look at Caroline the same again), she will send you a recipe for tree saplings in the mail.

You need fiber, wood, and wild seeds to make tea saplings, but they sell for 500g each. Just 20 of them will net 10,000g at no cost to you. As a bonus, you will be doing a lot of wood cutting, fiber harvesting and foraging anyway, so this strategy won’t really interfere with your other activities.

Good luck!
Great tip.Thanks! I'll have to look into that! :smile: Is Caroline the one with green hair or blue hair?? lol! ... only focused on Penny in one file and been quite antisocial on the other focusing just on trying to get the money for the animals! (only really friends with Linus in that game).

Both games have requested me to get into Marnie's bedroom for the Mayor's shorts! but seems you can't walk in even after giving her a couple of gifts before buying stuff from her!!
 

imnvs

Local Legend
Green hair is Caroline, Pierre's wife and mother of Abigail.

Blue hair is Emily, the hippy dippy older sister to Haley.
 

Tinks

Planter
One More Day already alluded to this a little, but if you have farming level 3, you can make preserves jars, which will more than double the profit of your crops, although the 8 coal needed per jar may be hard to come by if you're still on the copper levels of the mines.
(For the pale ale Pam wants, you'll need a keg which you get at farming 8. Those are also better total profit for most fruits, although they take more time. They do require iron though. If you're interested in the exact calculation of keg vs preserves jar profits, you can check the Keg and Preserves Jar pages on the wiki.)

The mining/combat definitely does take practice. Some tips:
  • Try to avoid/dodge enemies you can't kill quickly. The slimes in particular are relatively slow-moving except when they do that rush forwards, and take forever to kill, so try to stay away from them rather than fighting them if you can.
  • However, enemies do have a 15% chance of dropping a ladder if you kill them (as long as the tile they die on doesn't have anything else already on it, like a rock or dirt). So if you can kill an enemy quickly, do so. For example, the bugs that fly back and forth in a line should be killable with just one hit even with the rusty sword.
  • When fighting enemies, you ideally want to stand below (to the south) of them. Your hitbox is at your feet, but your weapon's hitbox basically starts from where your arms are, so if you stand below them you can basically reach farther with the sword without letting the enemy into your own hitbox.
  • Also, if you can pin an enemy (especially high-HP enemies like slimes) against a rock or wall, and then just keep hitting them, they can't really do anything to you.
  • Bring food! You want to be able to eat to get energy and health back. If you collected some salmonberries during the Spring 15-18 salmonberry season, those are a really good option for mining food. Otherwise, other foragables are a good option. I like to plant some hops in summer and use the gold-quality hops as mining food sometimes - not sure if that's actually cost-efficient, but they restore a lot of energy/health and you probably won't have kegs yet to process them with.
  • Break the wooden crates if you can, they can give food or gems or even rarely better weapons or rings
  • Once you get mining level 2, you'll be able to craft staircases. They cost 99 stone each, so you can't rely on them too much, but try to keep a couple hundred stone on you at all times in the mines, so that you can craft a ladder if you want to escape a floor quickly.
  • You can also buy better weapons at the Adventurer's Guild (you've probably had the letter from Marlon about opening the guild if you kill 10 green slimes). They keep stocking new weapons as you get further down, so keep checking back.
oh! Didn't know about buying weapons at Adventurers Guild..I'll go check that out..only have the broken sword so just try and avoid the green things that jump on you and zap your energy!
 

Dastin

Farmhand
I don't have much to said but, in the early game i mostly gain money from fishing, after greenhouse unlocked i started planting ancient fruit and then use the fruits to make another ancient fruit seeds using seed maker, it takes 2 years in game for me to fill all the greenhouse with ancient fruit, after that i used all the money for pigs, they produce truffle which is very profitable except winter, and i used the truffle to make truffle oil using oil maker, with artisan skill the price is up by 40% which is simply 1,500 gold per truffle oil, and now in years 3 i made 70k per day XD, well except rainy and winter. oh yeah, it takes a lot of money too to feed the pigs, so you need to maintain your hay properly XD.
So that's it, truns out i have so much to said lol
But i hope this help

Most importantly, enjoy the game:D
Fishing is the best was to gain money in the early game IMO
 

Ereo

Helper
The fishing mini game is the thing with the green bar that happens after you hook a fish.

You can't rotate barns (or any other buildings).

The higher someones heart level is, the more likely they are to send you gifts. Some characters also send you useful things, like recipes or blueprints, either when they reach a certain heart level of of you help them.

You can enter bedrooms as soon as you have 2 hearts with somebody. They don't just let any stranger walk in ;)
 
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