Pacifist Challenges

[Tom]

The first time I played Stardew Valley I immediately trashed the Rusty Sword since I am a pacifist: wouldn't want to end up killing something. That was 18 months and 1100 game-play hours ago, and I have never trashed the Rusty Sword again. Now I am wondering about pacifist challenges (I already tried and was disappointed with the "pacifist" mod). Does anybody know of any pacifist challenge runs? Here are my ideas:

1. No Weapons challenge: Every weapon must go immediately in the trash. I think this could be a really fun challenge I may try. It might only slightly impair progress, though I don't think there are alternate ways to get slime and bug meat.
2. No Killing challenge: No weapons and no fishing. This would make Community Center completion very hard or impossible. But maybe you could still get married and make millions pretty quickly. Is Joja pacifist-compatible?
3. Vegan challenge: No weapons, fishing, animals or honey. Obviously some severe game impairment. Joja? Just how evil are they? Do we know for a fact they are not a vegan and pacifist corporation? "Hmm "

 

[LRangerR]

1. No Weapons challenge: Every weapon must go immediately in the trash. I think this could be a really fun challenge I may try. It might only slightly impair progress, though I don't think there are alternate ways to get slime and bug meat.
2. No Killing challenge: No weapons and no fishing. This would make Community Center completion very hard or impossible. But maybe you could still get married and make millions pretty quickly. Is Joja pacifist-compatible?
3. Vegan challenge: No weapons, fishing, animals or honey. Obviously some severe game impairment. Joja? Just how evil are they? Do we know for a fact they are not a vegan and pacifist corporation? "Hmm "

I'd say you could fish, but only if it goes immediately into a fish pond or aquarium. The question is though, will you fish using bait?

As for Slime and Bug Meat, there are three fish that have a chance to give you bugmeat in the fishpond, and one that will give you slimes. Dorado, Pike, and Lingcod and Slimejack respectively.

Do we know for a fact they are not a vegan and pacifist corporation? "Hmm "

The letter in Pierre's kitchen that is from Morris is pretty telling. That's not the way pacifists talk.

-edit:
A little more trawling through the wiki shows you can buy slimes from Krobus and the Cart Lady, and I know you can get bugmeat there too. Idk how they source them though :P

 

[Lew Zealand]

Hmmm, the Fish Ponds do unlock the Slime option, in fact my favorite Fish is the Slimejack for that specific purpose so I can make more Cork Bobbers. And if you're fishing only to get Fish to farm in Ponds, then you can throw the ones you don't want back into to Ocean/Lake/River so they can live to bite another day. You should also probably throw any Live Bait you receive into the Lake to repopulate it.

As for the Fishing part of the Community Center, you could complete it if you feel that the Fish are to repopulate the fish tank there, though you would have to accept that the single fish tank in the CC as we see it stands in for the many tanks necessary for all fish you donate. Mentally picture Animal Crossing for that.

The Animal Bundle may rule out any Veganism, however. Wrong!!, see below. Taking the animal products for a bundle is no different than consuming them. But there are other ways of obtaining some of these products... Hmmm...

The Artisan Bundle can be done with Fruit only.

You can buy Solar or Void Essences from Krobus and you're done with the Adventurer's Bundle as you don't need Bat Wings or even the Slime.


This. Is. Doable.

Edit: You know what, forget about the Fish Tank as it rewards you with IMO the lamest reward of the game: Glittering Boulder removed so you can pan for pittances. No loss at all as you still get the Greenhouse fixed from other Bundles. There is no way to finish the CC without Fishing but you don't need anything else.............

.............eeeeeexcept for all the content added in v1.4 and now v1.5.

Yeah.

In v1.3 you could stop short of the Fish Tank and unlock pretty much everything else in the game but with the new updates, you're missing a bunch of content without Fishing. Or selling out to Joja...


edit 2 - The Animal bundle is Vegan-possible I'm gonna spoiler this whole bit for those who want to figure for themselves:

Large Eggs - Marry Shane and he will gift them, also Traveling Cart's rotating stock (rare)
Large Milk, Large Goat Milk - Traveling Cart's rotating stock (rare)
Wool - Gift from Emily in the Mail, and again from the Traveling Cart (rare)

And all the fish are available from the Cart. Honestly this makes the challenge a bit more boring as the Cart is pretty close to a Get Out Of Jail Free card if you're patient enough. OK one last thought: if you're buying these products from the Cart, you're encouraging someone else to obtain them through actions you don't personally condone, which breaks the spirit of Pacificism and Veganism so that decision is up to everyone individually.

 

[icKyou1025]

You could buy the fish from the Traveling Cart maybe

 

[LRangerR]

Just out of curiousity, how do you plan on getting Prismatic Shards? There's quite a few options available to you.

 

[PoppyForPenny]

I like this idea a lot! I think it would require some in game changes to make it work. Perhaps the randomized bundles could include a vegan option that replaces animal products with crops or foragables, and the entire fish tank replaced with a rare item collection (pearl, golden pumpkin, star shard, ghost crystal). I bet there's a mod for that.
Similarly, to progress in the mine without slaying monsters, you'd need some kind of special shield, invisibility, or monster sleeping potion.

 

[LRangerR]

I like this idea a lot! I think it would require some in game changes to make it work. Perhaps the randomized bundles could include a vegan option that replaces animal products with crops or foragables, and the entire fish tank replaced with a rare item collection (pearl, golden pumpkin, star shard, ghost crystal). I bet there's a mod for that.
Similarly, to progress in the mine without slaying monsters, you'd need some kind of special shield, invisibility, or monster sleeping potion.

I don't think the vegan challenge is possible unless you're willing to severely restrict yourself in the game, but the others are definitely possible, assuming fish go into the fish pond.

 

[Tom]

I'm pretty excited to try the No Weapons challenge (level 1).

Not sure about Prismatic Shards or other loot.

I am still interested in the Pacifist Valley mod, but it would need some re-thinking to work for me. There need to still be monsters, and they still need to be scary and deadly. But instead of killing them, you turn them into friendlies with hearts (which means, of course, that you get a Rusty Heart, a Forest Heart, Wooden Megaphone, etc). All the while they are hurting you, and if you fail to turn them friendly fast enough, you die. My vision is actually a lot simpler mod than the Pacifist Valley mod. And I think it's more true to real world pacifism and more interesting and challenging. I have half a mind to figure out the mod system so I can fork the mod.

 

[LRangerR]

And how, pray tell, would you turn these monsters in Stardew friendly? The real world pacifism allusion i get, but how would tool that into the game?

 

[Ereo]

Isn't there a mod that lets you cuddle monsters until they go away? Or is that pacifist valley?

 

[Uzzlegorf]

If you don't want to hurt animals and monsters but you are fine with hurting humans, go Joja

 

[LRangerR]

Isn't there a mod that lets you cuddle monsters until they go away? Or is that pacifist valley?

I can't tell if this post is sarcastic or not.

 

[Uzzlegorf]

I can't tell if this post is sarcastic or not.

No, it's a real thing:

Pacifist Valley

Converts the combat system into a cuddling system!

www.nexusmods.com

 

[LRangerR]

No, it's a real thing:

Pacifist Valley

Converts the combat system into a cuddling system!

www.nexusmods.com

Oye....anyone who knows me well knows i'm very much NOT a pacifist, yet i very much approve the discourse going on in this thread. Personally I find that mod hilarious but not-realistic. More of a parody or cartoon if anything. It sounds like fun, but probably not in the same direction that OP was hoping for (at least I assume).

 

[Ralij]

That would definitely be a challenge to be sure. Having to buy pretty much all the ore from Clint is expensive to say the least. Doable, certainly.

 

[liquidcat]

Reading all the comments here and finding out its certainly possible I might try it out, it seems really fun to try!

 

[icKyou1025]

I was roaming through mods today and saw this and immediately thought of this thread

Pacifist Fishing

Here is the link to the Nexus Mod page

 

[Tom]

And how, pray tell, would you turn these monsters in Stardew friendly? The real world pacifism allusion i get, but how would tool that into the game?

Isn't there a mod that lets you cuddle monsters until they go away? Or is that pacifist valley?

Here's the deal: Yeah. In the real world there is brokenness and danger aplenty, and a pacifist either turns foes to friends with radical love or dies trying. In Stardew Valley pacifist mode, the mechanics don't need to be hard at all. The monsters come at you all just the same, and the "weapons" are simply repurposed as some sort of "radical love" that turns them to friendlies.

Pacifist Valley mod has most of the programming work that's needed. The problem is it's cuddly valley instead of pacifist mode. The monsters can't kill you at all. In other words, there are no monsters. It's a totally unrealistic, cartoon version of pacifism, in my humble opinion. Maybe it's conceived as some sort of Futuristic Valley.

 

[icKyou1025]

You could try joining the modders discord channel and asking for a harder version of it (probably just something in configs). From the configs available it looks like monsters still damage you before you make them fall in love. Although I could be wrong since I haven't used it.