Is corn a fruit or a vegetable?
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FilthyGorilla
Local Legend
It's a veggie in stardew, as stardew's always right that's all you need to know
LRangerR
Local Legend
You stop thatits a fregetable duh
Yeah okay demitrius. Mhmm, sure
REtroGeekery
Farmer
In Stardew: Vegetable.
In real life: Grain.
In real life: Grain.
LRangerR
Local Legend
Somehow this answers nothing. Are grains a fruit or a vegetable?
Lew Zealand
Helper
<Demetrius>
If it comes from the flower part of the plant , botanically it's a fruit. So Corn is a fruit. Deal with it.
If doesn't comes from the flower but instead the roots, leaves, stems, etc. botanically it has a different classification, like a drupe, tuber, syconium, many different terms.
Vegetable is a culinary term and is useful for people who like to prepare food. Which is a lot of people because I hear that food is a good thing. So Corn is a vegetable. Also deal with it.
Since different systems use the 2 words, a Venn diagram will have some things listed as both a botanical Fruit and a culinary Vegetable. Like tasty Corn.
</Demetrius>
There's that Botany training finally coming handy for its stated use:
Pedantry.
If it comes from the flower part of the plant , botanically it's a fruit. So Corn is a fruit. Deal with it.
If doesn't comes from the flower but instead the roots, leaves, stems, etc. botanically it has a different classification, like a drupe, tuber, syconium, many different terms.
Vegetable is a culinary term and is useful for people who like to prepare food. Which is a lot of people because I hear that food is a good thing. So Corn is a vegetable. Also deal with it.
Since different systems use the 2 words, a Venn diagram will have some things listed as both a botanical Fruit and a culinary Vegetable. Like tasty Corn.
</Demetrius>
There's that Botany training finally coming handy for its stated use:
Pedantry.
PoppyForPenny
Farmer
In Stardew Valley, fruit makes wine & jam, and vegetables make juice and pickles. I make corn pickles for Harvey.
Vegetable really just means edible vegetation. All edible parts of plants, and even mushrooms, are vegetables.
People get confused about fruits & vegetables, but it's not really hard to understand. The part of a plant that comes after the flower and has the seeds, is the fruit. Not all fruit is edible, but all edible fruit is also a vegetable. Tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, pumpkins, eggplant, apples, grapes, all fruits.
Grains are a little different because the part that you eat is the seed. Legumes and nuts are also seeds. It's edible vegetation, so it is a vegetable, and it comes after the flower, so it is a fruit, kinda. We classify it differently because it's not a fleshy fruit.
Corn can be used as a grain, dried and ground into flour to make breads and cereals, and calorie rich with lots of carbohydrates. Corn can also be served as a vegetable, fresh, unground.
Bananas are a weird one- a banana tree is actually a grass, and the edible part of most grasses is the seed. But bananas are definitely a fruit. And as I said before, it comes from a plant and you can eat it, so it's a vegetable.
Vegetable really just means edible vegetation. All edible parts of plants, and even mushrooms, are vegetables.
People get confused about fruits & vegetables, but it's not really hard to understand. The part of a plant that comes after the flower and has the seeds, is the fruit. Not all fruit is edible, but all edible fruit is also a vegetable. Tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, pumpkins, eggplant, apples, grapes, all fruits.
Grains are a little different because the part that you eat is the seed. Legumes and nuts are also seeds. It's edible vegetation, so it is a vegetable, and it comes after the flower, so it is a fruit, kinda. We classify it differently because it's not a fleshy fruit.
Corn can be used as a grain, dried and ground into flour to make breads and cereals, and calorie rich with lots of carbohydrates. Corn can also be served as a vegetable, fresh, unground.
Bananas are a weird one- a banana tree is actually a grass, and the edible part of most grasses is the seed. But bananas are definitely a fruit. And as I said before, it comes from a plant and you can eat it, so it's a vegetable.
RennyBenny
Sodbuster
uhhh i guess id call it grain. but what does that make grains??? aaaaaa
REtroGeekery
Farmer
Grains like corn are a cereal grass. Technically, the part you eat is the fruit of the cereal grass, so I guess fruit, if you need to clasify it as one or the other, for some reason. I always put grains and legumes in their own classes aside from fruits and vegetables.
LRangerR
Local Legend
What are some examples of some of these other terms? The only one I'm familiar with is tuber
Pedantry.
Oh God, what kinda rabbit hole did I open up?
Okay so does that make bananas and other plantains a grain? Are there flowering grasses? Is that a thing?
This is about as far as I've gotten, loluhhh i guess id call it grain. but what does that make grains??? aaaaaa
And now I learn that grasses are cereal, and not the stuff that I eat in the morning... Oh boy.....
MogBeoulve
Farmer
I tried to look up some examples and apparently there are ARGUMENTS over whether an avocado is a drupe or a berry. This is indeed an endless rabbit hole!
REtroGeekery
Farmer
And now I learn that grasses are cereal, and not the stuff that I eat in the morning... Oh boy.....
Corn, oat, wheat, barley, and rice are all examples of cereal grains (and are harvested from cereal grasses), which is why breakfast cereals -which commonly use one or multiple of these as a base- are called that.
LRangerR
Local Legend
I dislike this rabbit hole but am having fun...begrudgingly...
One time I got into the great pineapple pizza debate/rage-fest, and one person argued that berries (pineapples) don't belong on pizza, but after a little research/rabbit holing, I discovered that tomotos are berries (fruit, yes I'm looking at you dimi)
Lew Zealand
Helper
Generally stone fruits are drupes, like Peaches, Nectarines, Plums, etc. Syconium is kinda cheating as there can be only one: Fig!
Botany is as detailed as any other science, with all the associated terminology and tiresome jargon.
Oh God, what kinda rabbit hole did I open up?
Grasses are angiosperms, making all of them flowering plants. Bananas are berries, so a subclass of fruits.
It generally makes sense once you consider that pop culture labels are for ease of advertising, and are irrelevant for scientific description. Nobody cares what type of plant part a fig is, only that you can call it a fruit and therefore tart it up with a ton of sugar to make it palatable.This is about as far as I've gotten, lol
And now I learn that grasses are cereal, and not the stuff that I eat in the morning... Oh boy.....
LRangerR
Local Legend
Grass berries, gotcha
FilthyGorilla
Local Legend
Hey hey hey, wouldn't I be Robin? Corn is technically classified as a fruit botanically though considered a grain or....
yeah I'm Demitrius nevermind
imnvs
Local Legend
Lew Zealand
Helper
Depends on what you're using it for. The majority of corn used for animal feed or destined for milling into cornmeal is dried out for long term storage and is considered a grain. But the corn we eat or that's used for popcorn has loads of water in it and is generally considered a starch or starchy vegetable.