Thats something that likely won't happen in early days. Also level 20 has barely any trash - you get either one of the 2 fish or something else - white algae and less likely green algae. White one can later be cooked into pale broth, both also can be used directly for energy.
I consider algae trash because it doesn't net you a direct income, unlike chubs, which can be sold for a fair amount if necessary. Fishing at the lake or in the river cuts the probability for getting "trash" (algae and jellies included) because targeted bait works wonders there.
Luck-wise, you rely on getting forages for the bait maker (in best case scenario - on D5. @Werbenja suggests it should be D6, which I'm okay with, but anything later than that will could make you feel like lagging behind). and not getting infested floors. After failing to get all forages needed on D6, I tested how often and when I could get the rest. From my experience, it's the sea urchin that's the bottleneck. The wiki says: "The average spawn rate for Sea Urchin in the tide pool section of the beach is 0.23/day. " I went to bed instantly after checking the beach - this means taking little steps. I'm saying that just in case, perhaps it affects the spawn rate anyhow? Anyways, take a look at my results:
I did a bunch of super early game run testing with the desert festival and was able to get 1500-1600 eggs and easily over the calico rating using just and iron pick and slammer with 100 bombs and some food. That was my average too, even on really bad runs I still usually got 1300-1400 eggs and just eeked out the calico rating, usually with a 60 or something.
How did you get so many bombs early? Last time I saved around 100 iron to make bombs on the run (I also traded quartz for bombs later)
I have my saves backed up so I can go back. I think that if D15 is your first SC run, then it's very hard to reach Rate 55. Now, if you could just go to the desert on 14th and get at least one warp totem: desert - it'd be fantastic. I can try doing so - my D14 was mostly getting ores for first SC run, as it never hurts you to have more bombs ready. One extra thing - I'm even more convinced gold pick upgrade does more harm than help.
It may be the case, yes. I got irritated when I reached Rate 54 and was unable to reach Gil before 2am after the struggle for Rate 55 on D15. Keep in mind I didn't try aiming for Rate 55 on D16 and D17 - which would be MUCH easier considering you have more time to reach it. There's also one more thing - I don't know how exactly luck works in SV - If I have a super luck day and I eat MRC - will I "lose" overflow of luck? Will I hit a luck ceiling? Zamiel suggests using MRC on a bad luck day - but does that mean you should save your MRC for worse luck days? Or perhaps it's more sensible to be liberal with them early on since money makes snowball effect?
You can get about 100 a day pretty easily from just resetting 65,55,45,41 then transitioning to 41 when you have enough coal
The run I did on the 15th did have a totem, I have been running sc since the 8th or 9th on that save, however, I got like 75 egg rating on some of the resets which I think makes up for the lost 3.5 hours
Daily luck and buff luck are separate and have different effects on the same and also different things.
You get a load of time in early summer to spend in sc for cash for starfruit, should be able to keep all of the first harvest just fine and make enough from iridium.
I'm not sure how you can do so without using exploits or getting extremely lucky with rainy days. From what I understand you must upgrade the pick on D3, then on D5, and it's ready on D7 - but that'd mean reaching the bottom in one single day (or a bit more if you have already unlocked the vault, which is also unlikely because you need 2-3 crabpot items on average to unlock the boiler room bundles) I'm eager to listen about your more in-depth strats then, though, again, I doubt they're easily applicable. Long as you enjoy your game - it doesn't matter but keep in mind I'm doing no-glich runs. That also means not settting name to get specific items.
Thank you. It is clear to me what to do with MRC then :)
I'm only fishing day 2/3/4 and make about 30-35k while upgrading day 2 for copper pick for day 4 pickup, day 5 I spend getting to floor 65-90 (depends on luck/how much I reset really), day 6 getting to 115 (after buying joja membership) and resetting rest of day 6 and 7 for bombs and diamonds, either day 6-8 I buy the vault.
I'm not getting a gold pick, it does nearly nothing over an iron one, at most I'm getting iron but copper pick is fine for sc too, especially for the first runs, I'm relying on bombs primarily anyway then once I get enough combat experience explosive ammo supplemented with bombs
Not using cc which means no need for all the bundles, just 2 trips to joja, only costs 2.5k more, I don't bother getting all the way in a single day but I buy salads and have the copper pick on day 4 which means I can decently easily get to level 70-80 on day 5
I don't use any glitches for a run like this either, just some resetting
I'm glad I could help :)
After buying 1 copper ore on D1 you need 1800 for 24 more for 5 copper bars, plus 2000 for copper pick upgrade. With good luck D1 you should be able to get 1300-1400 total from foraging. You can then buy fiberglass rod asap but how are you supposed to get all the money for pick upgrade before Clint closes his shop? You'd need to start smelting copper no later than 2:39pm. With good luck and skill you should get L2 fishing before 12pm but that still leaves only 2.5h to get all the money. I can imagine D3 pick upgrade but D2 seems madness to me so unless you show me I won't believe it's possible.
I've been playing since 1.0 so many of these runs were done in 1.4 and 1.5 (my updates of specialty) where clay farming was present without advanced settings. I would just clay farm for about 7-8k day 1 and be able to afford everything on day 2.
That explains it. I don't consider it cheating but it's also in the grey area of RNG prediction. Clay farming is still an option when you turn on legacy option in 1.6 so you don't really lose it. I wonder if luck can still be changed by taking steps. From my experience, it's not seeded.
That's why I mentioned the legacy rng right after that statement.
If you can get to level 40 and mine the ore in a single day that may be worth doing and upgrading the pickaxe a day later, especially since you plan on going to sc so much later on the 13th. While it's saving less money than you'd earn from fishing, the copper pickaxe is basically equivalent to any other higher tier pickaxe for the early mines levels (mines the standard and grey rocks in a single hit up to 40, it's just copper ore nodes which take more hits) so you'd be doing something you plan on doing later anyway.
How come? In a classic joja run there are two bottlenecks stopping you from going to SC: F120 in the mines and money. There are two reasons to upgrade pickaxe to iron: to descend in the mines faster and to perform better in SC. The latter is not necessarily true if you consider using about 100 bombs you mentioned earlier, and it is questionable whether iron pick saves time in the mines or not. In brief, iron pick is not certainly a timesaver. And it's CERTAINLY not a moneysaver. I need to check what's faster then.
Keep in mind Zamiel's guide suggests going to SC around D17. Aiming for D13 (CC run, not joja but I'll check joja next) is a rather fair first try, considering how unpolished my 1.6 runs are. Once I can establish some facts I may be able to save 1-2 days. And all of that without relying on extreme luck.
Iron pick will save time, but not really until level 40, most of what you'll encounter up there will be broken just as fast with a copper pick as an iron one. By going earlier and getting the iron yourself you're killing two birds with one stone, I was simply proposing it because you seemed quite adamant about a gold or iron pickaxe in earlier messages. By all means use just a copper one, it fairs fine in sc with the primary rock breaker being explosives (and does decently enough in the later mines levels too which can also be supplemented with explosives)
I haven't really been using Zamiels guide for reference as it is entry level minmax and I assumed you had a bit more experience in prior updates but I can keep that timeframe more in mind if you'd like, it's definitely a bit more mixed up with 1.6.
Nothing beats spending hundreds of hours playing to absolute perfection to do something a little bit better in what's supposed to be a cute and cozy farming gameY’all have this down to the likes of those mathematical and scientific formulas I feared greatly in high school and college. You have my utmost respect for your brilliance but I dare say you are also bordering on insanity.
You are definitely one of the best at your brand of farming.
You are an iridium quality LEGEND! 